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		<title>By: Greybeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greybeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting topic, and thanks to Peter and Ken for covering a few bases in their discourse. 
I am a firm believer in transparency, so rest assured that should I ever start to receive freebies from wineries or retailers in the course of my writing I will happily provide full disclosure. Unfortunately this seems a forlorn hope (no free samples ariving with the morning mail yet!) and I continue to use my own hard-earned cash for those modest wines mentioned in my posts - whether it is ones bought directly for home drinking or those enjoyed at tastings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting topic, and thanks to Peter and Ken for covering a few bases in their discourse.<br />
I am a firm believer in transparency, so rest assured that should I ever start to receive freebies from wineries or retailers in the course of my writing I will happily provide full disclosure. Unfortunately this seems a forlorn hope (no free samples ariving with the morning mail yet!) and I continue to use my own hard-earned cash for those modest wines mentioned in my posts &#8211; whether it is ones bought directly for home drinking or those enjoyed at tastings.</p>
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		<title>By: Admin, Ken Payton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admin, Ken Payton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Peter. You ask some good questions about the FTC&#039;s new Guidelines. Here&#039;s how I approach the issue. Of the major difference between established newspapers (and mags) and bloggers with respect to freebies, I think you may have answered your own question when you write &quot;Readers know that.&quot; The FTC believes that there is no way traditional media can operate without samples. Imagine a computer reviewer for the NY Times. To review a dozen new computers over the course of a month cannot be achieved without the manufacturers giving computers to the reviewer in his official capacity as an employee for the Times. And that the public, indeed, knows this. Therefore, there is no deception of the public.

A blogger, by virtue of his or her independence, their non-affiliation, it is felt that the public will possibly assume, according to the FTC, the same standard &#039;traditional&#039; media enjoys may apply. Therefore, deception may occur without disclosure. After all, it costs little if anything to set up a blog. There is no financial investment or reputation driving consistent, credible review quality. The simple truth is that drug companies, consumer electronic manufacturers, vitamin and diet promoters, among many other businesses, have turned to the internet as an end-around of govt. oversight.

In the example you provide of a certain &#039;Joe Soap&#039;, the FTC makes it clear that a blogger endorsement follows upon a consistent, repetitious relation to a given business. There is nothing, I repeat, nothing in the new Guidelines that remotely suggests a citizen blogger writing for their family would be required to disclose anything!  However, should travel companies establish a relation over time with &#039;Joe Soap&#039;, the citizen blogger, then yes, disclosure would eventually be required. But even then, the details of the restaurant and bar comps., the discount on sandals, would fall well outside of the Guidelines.

You must remember that the Guidelines are but a first attempt to address the growing problem of internet fraud and mis-representation, of the pernicious, sometimes injurious trafficking of the false testimonials of shills, of all those &#039;gaming&#039; the system. Even wine writers!

But your concerns about Greybeard may be put to rest! 

And as for a SWAT team breaking down the door, if a mother had given her child a dietary supplement advertised on a fake &#039;family&#039;-issues blog as improving children&#039;s health that was, in fact, injurious, then that mother would likely want some legal recourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Peter. You ask some good questions about the FTC&#8217;s new Guidelines. Here&#8217;s how I approach the issue. Of the major difference between established newspapers (and mags) and bloggers with respect to freebies, I think you may have answered your own question when you write &#8220;Readers know that.&#8221; The FTC believes that there is no way traditional media can operate without samples. Imagine a computer reviewer for the NY Times. To review a dozen new computers over the course of a month cannot be achieved without the manufacturers giving computers to the reviewer in his official capacity as an employee for the Times. And that the public, indeed, knows this. Therefore, there is no deception of the public.</p>
<p>A blogger, by virtue of his or her independence, their non-affiliation, it is felt that the public will possibly assume, according to the FTC, the same standard &#8216;traditional&#8217; media enjoys may apply. Therefore, deception may occur without disclosure. After all, it costs little if anything to set up a blog. There is no financial investment or reputation driving consistent, credible review quality. The simple truth is that drug companies, consumer electronic manufacturers, vitamin and diet promoters, among many other businesses, have turned to the internet as an end-around of govt. oversight.</p>
<p>In the example you provide of a certain &#8216;Joe Soap&#8217;, the FTC makes it clear that a blogger endorsement follows upon a consistent, repetitious relation to a given business. There is nothing, I repeat, nothing in the new Guidelines that remotely suggests a citizen blogger writing for their family would be required to disclose anything!  However, should travel companies establish a relation over time with &#8216;Joe Soap&#8217;, the citizen blogger, then yes, disclosure would eventually be required. But even then, the details of the restaurant and bar comps., the discount on sandals, would fall well outside of the Guidelines.</p>
<p>You must remember that the Guidelines are but a first attempt to address the growing problem of internet fraud and mis-representation, of the pernicious, sometimes injurious trafficking of the false testimonials of shills, of all those &#8216;gaming&#8217; the system. Even wine writers!</p>
<p>But your concerns about Greybeard may be put to rest! </p>
<p>And as for a SWAT team breaking down the door, if a mother had given her child a dietary supplement advertised on a fake &#8216;family&#8217;-issues blog as improving children&#8217;s health that was, in fact, injurious, then that mother would likely want some legal recourse.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter May</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a suggested voluntary code of practice no-one can object. But as some sort of law with legal penalties ??

I read two daily newspapers. Their reviewers of books, wines, theatre, movies, travel and vacations all get them free. Readers know that.

But Joe Soap writing a personal blog for their family or whatever has to disclose what was paid for?

&quot;Went on great holiday (paid for) found buzzy bar wherethey make great margaritas (bought 6 barman gave me one on the house), had great pub meal (2 for 1 discount) and waiter brought us a great grappa with the bill (on the house). Saw great sandals in shop (on sale, got 50%off).....&quot;

Wine writers on blogs must disclose while writers in magazines and newspapers don&#039;t? Is this official recognition that the blogosphere is more influential than traditional media?

Also not clear who is affected. It is US bloggers, or writers on blogs hosted in the US? Can you Greybeard write freely while your other writers risk a SWAT team breaking down their doors?

And if a blogger writes that they paid for goods they review, who will or can prove them wrong?

Re wine, what about wines you taste at trade shows? How about if you pay to attend a wine show but the pours are free once inside the show?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a suggested voluntary code of practice no-one can object. But as some sort of law with legal penalties ??</p>
<p>I read two daily newspapers. Their reviewers of books, wines, theatre, movies, travel and vacations all get them free. Readers know that.</p>
<p>But Joe Soap writing a personal blog for their family or whatever has to disclose what was paid for?</p>
<p>&#8220;Went on great holiday (paid for) found buzzy bar wherethey make great margaritas (bought 6 barman gave me one on the house), had great pub meal (2 for 1 discount) and waiter brought us a great grappa with the bill (on the house). Saw great sandals in shop (on sale, got 50%off)&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Wine writers on blogs must disclose while writers in magazines and newspapers don&#8217;t? Is this official recognition that the blogosphere is more influential than traditional media?</p>
<p>Also not clear who is affected. It is US bloggers, or writers on blogs hosted in the US? Can you Greybeard write freely while your other writers risk a SWAT team breaking down their doors?</p>
<p>And if a blogger writes that they paid for goods they review, who will or can prove them wrong?</p>
<p>Re wine, what about wines you taste at trade shows? How about if you pay to attend a wine show but the pours are free once inside the show?</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree with you more, Charlie. As usual, you are right on the mark. Great to hear from you.</description>
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		<title>By: Charlie Olken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Olken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ultimate goal here is transparency. That is a standard that should be the minimum for admission to the world of wine writers. 

It is a standard that needs to be applied not just to the blogosphere but to all winewriting--and, of course, to all comments on product quality.

I cannot see where any responsible critic should be opposed. There are no onerous reporting requirements. To my mind, the entire wine community would be advanced by taking a united stand for openness and absence of taint in our writings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ultimate goal here is transparency. That is a standard that should be the minimum for admission to the world of wine writers. </p>
<p>It is a standard that needs to be applied not just to the blogosphere but to all winewriting&#8211;and, of course, to all comments on product quality.</p>
<p>I cannot see where any responsible critic should be opposed. There are no onerous reporting requirements. To my mind, the entire wine community would be advanced by taking a united stand for openness and absence of taint in our writings.</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa, Sherman,  you both make excellent points. The FTC&#039;s updated Guidelines were not written in a vacuum. They did rely on commenters to provide some direction prior to their decision. It is likely, owing to the great public interest in the discrepancy between print and blog standards, that the subject will be revisited once the dust settles following their Oct. 5th notice.

And the FTC is not a law-enforcement agency. Violations of the Guidelines will be recommended to law enforcement on a case-by-case basis, and then only in instances of egregious, flagrant and repeated abuse of the public trust.

An important caveat: the FTC has very little interest in themselves actively &#039;policing&#039; the blogosphere. The important wrinkle here is that consumers now have the FTC&#039;s Complaint link to report violations. This, I believe, is the most important development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, Sherman,  you both make excellent points. The FTC&#8217;s updated Guidelines were not written in a vacuum. They did rely on commenters to provide some direction prior to their decision. It is likely, owing to the great public interest in the discrepancy between print and blog standards, that the subject will be revisited once the dust settles following their Oct. 5th notice.</p>
<p>And the FTC is not a law-enforcement agency. Violations of the Guidelines will be recommended to law enforcement on a case-by-case basis, and then only in instances of egregious, flagrant and repeated abuse of the public trust.</p>
<p>An important caveat: the FTC has very little interest in themselves actively &#8216;policing&#8217; the blogosphere. The important wrinkle here is that consumers now have the FTC&#8217;s Complaint link to report violations. This, I believe, is the most important development.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at a Wall Street Journal aricle on 10-6-09, they say &quot;There are no fines for violating the guidelines, FTC officials say, although bloggers could end up in court if they don&#039;t stop violating the guidelines.&quot; They go on to say that enforcing the guidelines could be difficult, since the agency (the FTC) has limited authority and staff. So apparently, only the most obvious and most blatant offenders will be in line for possible punishment. Seems like another federal answer to an unasked question --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at a Wall Street Journal aricle on 10-6-09, they say &#8220;There are no fines for violating the guidelines, FTC officials say, although bloggers could end up in court if they don&#8217;t stop violating the guidelines.&#8221; They go on to say that enforcing the guidelines could be difficult, since the agency (the FTC) has limited authority and staff. So apparently, only the most obvious and most blatant offenders will be in line for possible punishment. Seems like another federal answer to an unasked question &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big discrepancy is that wine (and other) print magazines routinely receive free wine samples - some review no matter what the outcome, others only write about those they recommend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big discrepancy is that wine (and other) print magazines routinely receive free wine samples &#8211; some review no matter what the outcome, others only write about those they recommend.</p>
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		<title>By: Slaked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slaked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Thanks for the update.</description>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Jeff. And I agree with you. The best wine blogs, yours included, already do disclose. The FTC Guidelines were not rewritten for wine bloggers, after all. The FTC is far more concerned with misrepresentations in the health and medical fields, &#039;canned&#039; testimonials for electronic gear, questionable child care products, the larger issue of a manufacturer&#039;s liability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Jeff. And I agree with you. The best wine blogs, yours included, already do disclose. The FTC Guidelines were not rewritten for wine bloggers, after all. The FTC is far more concerned with misrepresentations in the health and medical fields, &#8216;canned&#8217; testimonials for electronic gear, questionable child care products, the larger issue of a manufacturer&#8217;s liability.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post and summary, Ken.

Most wine bloggers who have a readership already do disclosure, so I think the ultimate eventuality is that the fringe will shake out, which is probably better off for everybody anyway.

Again, nice post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post and summary, Ken.</p>
<p>Most wine bloggers who have a readership already do disclosure, so I think the ultimate eventuality is that the fringe will shake out, which is probably better off for everybody anyway.</p>
<p>Again, nice post.</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question.  As I understand the FTC Guidelines, the pursuit of penalties would follow upon the perceived harm done to the public.  Enforcement, the recommendation to law enforcement, would therefore be a function of the number and severity of public complaints.  Some internet sources have already assigned a dollar value to the penalties.  I have yet to find independent corroboration of their figures.  The story is developing.  Stay tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question.  As I understand the FTC Guidelines, the pursuit of penalties would follow upon the perceived harm done to the public.  Enforcement, the recommendation to law enforcement, would therefore be a function of the number and severity of public complaints.  Some internet sources have already assigned a dollar value to the penalties.  I have yet to find independent corroboration of their figures.  The story is developing.  Stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given a relationship between the blogger and a member of the supply chain, what is the penalty for non-disclosure, and how would any such penalty be enforced? Anything in the new guidelines about this area?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given a relationship between the blogger and a member of the supply chain, what is the penalty for non-disclosure, and how would any such penalty be enforced? Anything in the new guidelines about this area?</p>
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		<title>By: tom merle</title>
		<link>http://reignofterroir.com/2009/10/05/ftc-issues-new-blogger-guidelines/comment-page-1/#comment-51266</link>
		<dc:creator>tom merle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think that what counts to establish credibility with consumers is the record of evaluations.  I would assume that most sites that review widgets of any kind receive test items as samples, say cell phones.  If the reviewing entity finds some of the widgets mediocre and some superior then this would seem to indicate that the fact of free samples is immaterial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think that what counts to establish credibility with consumers is the record of evaluations.  I would assume that most sites that review widgets of any kind receive test items as samples, say cell phones.  If the reviewing entity finds some of the widgets mediocre and some superior then this would seem to indicate that the fact of free samples is immaterial.</p>
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