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		<title>Ryan Crane of Kerloo Cellars, Walla Walla</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ryan Crane owner and winemaker at Kerloo Cellars and Sean Boyd, owner and winemaker of Rôtie Cellars are the best of friends and demonstrate a cooperation that is one of the finest features of the Walla Walla winemaking and wine growing community. Each producer helps the other in ways both great and small. Though all [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="lightbox"  title ="Kerloo Cellars" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Kerloo-Cellars.jpg" title="Kerloo Cellars" rel="lightbox[4351]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Kerloo-Cellars.jpg" alt="" title="Kerloo Cellars" width="193" height="220" class="alignright size-full wp-image-4352" /></a>Ryan Crane owner and winemaker at <a href="http://www.kerloocellars.com/" title="Kerloo"><strong>Kerloo Cellars</strong></a> and <a href="http://reignofterroir.com/2010/06/24/sean-boyd-of-rotie-cellars-walla-walla/" title="Sean Boyd"><strong>Sean Boyd</strong></a>, owner and winemaker of <a href="http://www.rotiecellars.com/" title="Rôtie"><strong>Rôtie Cellars</strong></a> are the best of friends and demonstrate a cooperation that is one of the finest features of the Walla Walla winemaking and wine growing community. Each producer helps the other in ways both great and small. Though all folks are committed to winning in the market place, those in the wine business there understand that the success of one is not possible without assistance and labor of all. As Ryan Crane put it, &#8220;We&#8217;re all in this together.&#8221;<br />
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And so it was that Mr. Boyd provided me an introduction to Mr. Crane, just as the electric Abigail Schwerin of <a href="http://www.sapolilcellars.com/index.htm" title="Sapolil"><strong>Sapolil Cellars</strong></a> had pointed me to David Stephenson of <a href="http://stephensoncellars.com/" title="Stephenson"><strong>Stephenson Cellars</strong></a> And had I the time for a longer stay, I am certain the chain of referrals would have gone on uninterrupted. But even so, the Crane/Boyd connection is an unusual one. Each moved from the Seattle area at roughly the same time. Each had been &#8216;discovered&#8217; when still winemaking assistants. And, most amusingly, each had their wines rates by the same critic. And Ryan Crane received the better score. So what? As you will read, Ryan was quick to point out the success Sean Boyd has recently enjoyed. I must say it has made the work I&#8217;ve done in Walla Walla a great pleasure.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Ryan and Renee Crane" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Ryan-and-Renee-Crane.jpg" title="Ryan and Renee Crane" rel="lightbox[4351]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Ryan-and-Renee-Crane-300x269.jpg" alt="" title="Ryan and Renee Crane" width="300" height="269" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4354" /></a><strong><em>Admin</em></strong>  <em>Hi, Ryan. Are you watching the World Cup?</em><br />
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<strong>Ryan Crane</strong>  Hey, Ken. No, I&#8217;m not. This is kind of wild, I&#8217;m actually composing an email to a dude in Bangkok. He wants to buy 20 cases of my wine! This is the first deal I&#8217;ve done overseas. He&#8217;s got a registration number for a logistics company. They&#8217;ll pick up the wine here at the winery and ship it to Bangkok.<br />
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<em>I&#8217;ll be damned! Congratulations. How did that happen?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  He had my wine at El Gaucho in downtown Seattle. It seems he&#8217;s getting married, and he wants to pour our wines. So, I&#8217;m working on the costs of shipping the wine to Bangkok.<br />
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<em>I understand you and Sean Boyd are good friends.</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  Sean and I have the same sort of story. He&#8217;s originally from Seattle as well. We both wanted to get into the wine industry. I come from a background in distribution and sales. I think Sean was more on the enjoying drinking side; I was too. He moved to Walla Walla about a year before I did. We basically packed up everything, quit our jobs. I went to wine school here and just started diving into the wine business.<br />
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<em>Were you one of Billo Naravane&#8217;s students?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  No, I was in the last class of <a href="http://www.collegecellars.com/stan.htm" title="Stan Clarke"><strong>Mr. Stan Clarke</strong></a>. He&#8217;s passed. He was awesome, the core of the program when it first started.<br />
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<em>When was the program started at <a href="http://www.collegecellars.com/index.html" title="College Cellars"><strong>College Cellars</strong></a>?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  Boy&#8230; I graduated two years ago. I think it started in 2004? Stan and <a href="http://www.collegecellars.com/myles.htm" title="Myles"><strong>Myles Anderson</strong></a> from Walla Walla Vintners were the two that kind of started the whole program. Myles then stepped away and they hired another director to handle the program.<br />
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<em>Was the program designed to turn out winemakers? Viticulturalists?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  It&#8217;s both. The first year is all in viticulture; the second year is all in winemaking. It&#8217;s a two year program. Stan taught all the viticulture classes and Mike Moyer taught all the winemaking classes.<br />
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<em>I see. So you could just walk off the street and get what, a BA?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  It&#8217;s basically an Associates degree in Sciences on paper. But its an Oenology and Viticulture certificate out of Walla Walla. A graduate is free to pursue either. I love making the juice.<br />
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<em>Yes. I was fortunate enough to be given a bottle of your 2007 Syrah by Nicole Rivinius of Rôtie. But as rare as it is, I find  it heartbreaking to open it!</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  We&#8217;ll take care of that. I want you to get an idea of what I&#8217;m up to, my styles. I&#8217;ll ship you a bottle of each of my &#8217;08s, both Syrahs and a Tempranillo. And you&#8217;ve got the historic &#8216;07 wine. You can pick and choose.<br />
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<em>Damn! Thank you very much! You and Sean are very generous. Are your wines made exclusively from grapes within the Walla Walla AVA?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Va Piano" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Va-Piano.jpg" title="Va Piano" rel="lightbox[4351]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Va-Piano-160x92.jpg" alt="" title="Va Piano" width="160" height="92" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-4356" /></a><strong>RC</strong>  I source outside the AVA as well. My philosophy with varietals themselves is that I want the best, from where they grow the best. So I make unique varietals across the board. For Syrah I&#8217;m a cooler climate guy. For me Syrah is going to be Walla Walla all the time. I get my grapes from <a href="http://www.vapianovineyards.com/" title="Va Piano"><strong>Va Piano</strong></a> were I work, and make the my wines. And then I also pull from <a href="http://www.kerloocellars.com/our-wines" title="Les Collines><strong>Les Collines Vineyard</strong></a>, about 5 miles east of Va Piano at the base of the mountains there. I also pull some Tempranillo from Wahluke Slope from the <a href="http://www.stonetreevineyard.com/" title="Stone Tree"><strong>Stone Tree</strong></a> vineyard, a remarkable vineyard. I love it. I also pull a little Tempranillo from here, Les Collines, block 6. And then I pull some Malbec from a little bit north of Red Mountain. Sean and I share some Grenache from Alder Ridge, Horse Heaven Hills. And I&#8217;ve got some Cabernet coming on board this year from Bacchus Vineyard, block 10.<br />
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<em>I am fascinated by the Walla Walla winemaker&#8217;s philosophy. You understand what the AVA offers, but your creative imaginations and tasting sophistication demands that they source from outside the AVA. You folks don&#8217;t seem to be concerned about a general Washington State AVA designation. You just want to make the best wines you are able. I like that approach to Walla Walla.</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="First bottle" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/First-bottle.jpg" title="First bottle" rel="lightbox[4351]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/First-bottle-97x160.jpg" alt="" title="First bottle" width="97" height="160" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-4358" /></a><strong>RC</strong>  The one thing that&#8217;s a little bit different on my side from a stylistic standpoint is that I try to make wines that are true from where they&#8217;re grown. I really want to make terroir wines, wines of place. So I don&#8217;t blend a lot of wines together. I like to make vineyard designate wines that speak of that site. I ask what style of wine do I want to make. And where in Washington State does that varietal grow best. I then select sites. So, Syrah, I like to make good, concentrated Syrah, but balanced across the board. This is what Walla Walla give me; slow concentration and slow maturity in the vines. At the end of the day, when I make the juice, they tend to be really concentrated and well balanced.<br />
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With Tempranillo, I&#8217;m trying to pay homage to Rioja-style Temps from within the state. I want to make wines that are palate challenging across the board. Just as there are cooler and warmer Spanish Riojas, I want to source the same here in Washington State and blend both together to make the Rioja style: brighter fruits, good tannins, good acid, low alcohol. With Malbec, which traditionally needs some heat to get ripe, I&#8217;m kind of edgy, on the cut. I crop it at 1.67 tons per acre. And it&#8217;s just stoopid, I mean concentrated just off the chart. So, I like to make vineyard-driven wines.<br />
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<em>Where do you do your fermentations?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  I make all the wine, I&#8217;m bonded, out of Va Piano. Sean is bonded at Waters, I&#8217;m bonded at Va Piano.<br />
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<em>And your distribution circle?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  I have no distributors. It&#8217;s all done through me, Ryan Crane. I haven&#8217;t picked up anything yet. I&#8217;m really in no hurry. When I moved here, just like everyone else, my wife and I would go out and taste in Portland and Cali and Washington State, and a lot of times you walk into a winery and you don&#8217;t even know who the winemaker is, you have no idea of what is going on. For me, I wanted to create and carry the brand. I sell the wines by appointment only, because at the end of the day, my hope is that every bottle of Kerloo Cellars on the table the people can say they met the winemaker, they shared a glass of wine with me, they tasted a barrel sample with me; I think the story drives the brand. I&#8217;m really focussed on that part right now, especially in the early vinages of Kerloo wines. I&#8217;m in no hurry. And I don&#8217;t have much juice. Thankfully we&#8217;ve had some good press; we&#8217;re moving relatively quickly. I have it in the books that I will have, in the next four years, three distributors. But for now it is just me.<br />
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<em>One of my disappointments at the recent Wine Bloggers Conference was the absence of so many small producers. Many were not even referred to in the official literature. Why is this? Is it all about dollars? After all, some of the most interesting wines are being made by the smaller producers. Why should we hear so much about the big guys?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Ryan on a forklift" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Ryan-on-a-forklift.jpg" title="Ryan on a forklift" rel="lightbox[4351]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Ryan-on-a-forklift-160x120.jpg" alt="" title="Ryan on a forklift" width="160" height="120" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-4363" /></a><strong>RC</strong>  I don&#8217;t know. Some of the events were definitely driven by the bigger boys. Yes, it&#8217;s capital-driven. But I think there is a small core of us little guys that are staying a little out of the mainstream, that are just trying to grow our brands by word of mouth. As for the reasons, I didn&#8217;t really hear anything about tastings with the bloggers coming into town, or of any events. For example, there is an event coming up featuring distributors, big wine buyers from all around the country; we were invited to that only because I know the director running it. The little guys just aren&#8217;t known. And when a tasting comes to town we may not even know about it. We aren&#8217;t necessarily invited to anything.<br />
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The <a href="http://wallawallawine.com/node/16" title="Wine Alliance"><strong>Wine Alliance</strong></a> could do a better job, especially with the small guys. But they ask for $2000 every year just to get your name on a small list. For us it is not worth it to write the check. Because it sometimes happens that Boom! Ken Payton comes to town and we end up talking. And truth be told, I think one of the cool things about the small guys is that everyone wants to talk to the smaller brands.<br />
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<em>One of the difficulties is that a certain understanding is established between the major wine press and the big guys should the former spend only time with the latter. I don&#8217;t want to name names, but the presence of new oak was obvious in many of the wines I tasted. Who can afford new oak? Well, principally the big guys. But that theirs are the ones that are often tasted, a picture or model or standard emerges of the AVA that is uses lots of new oak. That feature then becomes an element of the dominant taste profile. The risk is that smaller brands can become pressured to convert to a barrel program against their better judgement.</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  For me it&#8217;s not really about that. They are going to sell more wine because they have more wine to sell. I really want to get the people who want to meet small brands, who want to be a part of the up and coming generation of winemakers in Washington State and, obviously, Walla Walla. I&#8217;m patient. And then there&#8217;s Brandon at L&#8217;Ecole, he runs the wine club there, he&#8217;s a huge fan of my wines, and I get many phone calls from people he points my way. <strong><em> Brandon Kubrock is the Tasting Room Manager; the Wine Club Manager is Jaime Chalk.&#8211;Admin]</em></strong> The cool thing about it is that we have this kind of underground movement, and Sean is the same way, so whenever people come to town everybody knows who to send them to. People find us. That&#8217;s a cool way to do it.<br />
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<em>In what direction do think the AVA is headed?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  It will continue to expand. I think the growth in the past 5 years has been relatively fast. We&#8217;re, I think, 140 bonded wineries now. Within the next three years there will be another 50 new wineries opening. I can say, from a numbers standpoint, that ever since Kerloo opened the door, and Rotie, I haven&#8217;t seen that many other wineries put in licenses to open here. It has slowed a little because it is such a capital-driven market. But we will continue to grow, perhaps not as fast as we have the last few years.<br />
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And from the vineyard side of things, Walla Walla is tricky. There are some really good sites here, and there are some really poor vineyard grounds as well. That part of the business will grow more slowly. I don&#8217;t see a whole lot of vineyards opening or starting to plant right now. It also has to do with land allocation and parcel development. Depending where you are at in Walla Walla, some parcels are only divided into 40 and 80 acres plots. Buying 40 acres at $700,000, plus putting in a vineyard after that, we&#8217;re talking some crazy cash.<br />
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<em>Who are the people who have opened up and are opening up wineries? Are they from out of state? Are they from within Washington State? Walla Walla itself?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  I think it is a mixture. I&#8217;m originally from Seattle, born in Minneapolis, but have lived in Seattle my whole life, so I&#8217;m a Stater. Sean is a Stater. A lot of them are from within the state itself. Sinclair Estate Vineyard is Microsoft owned, but they live in Seattle as well. Corlis is within state. Maybe even most are within state.<br />
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<em>There must be just a modest number of viticultural managers and vineyard consultants in Walla Walla. Some use Dr. Kevin Pogue, for example. Are there so few that the 140 wineries all share the same small coterie of consultants?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  It is pretty much the same group. Of the handful of vineyards that are selling within Walla Walla, yes, everyone talks to the same vineyard manager, absolutely.<br />
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<em>But does that mean that canopy management is roughly the same? That the layout of the vineyards is roughly the same?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  In a general sense, yeah; I mean, it&#8217;s all on <a href="http://agronomy.unl.edu/viticulture/trellis_systems_for_your_vineyard.htm" title="VSP"><strong>VSP</strong></a>. There is some <a href="http://www.winebusiness.com/wbm/?go=getArticle&#038;dataId=45493" title="sprawl"><strong>Sprawl</strong></a> up at Les Collines. There is really no other trellising that&#8217;s getting played with except for at <a href="http://www.morrisonlane.com/" title="Morrison Lane"><strong>Morrison Lane</strong></a>. They&#8217;re playing with some <a href="http://www.henryestate.com/trellis.asp" title="Scott Henry"><strong>Scott Henry</strong></a> and some double tier quad lateral action. So, most of the vineyards, all of the ones I work with, are on VSP. So, in an overall sense, most of it is getting managed in much the same way. Outside of how much you decide to leave from a fruit standpoint.<br />
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<em>What is it that <a href="http://www.cayusevineyards.com/static/" title="Cayuse"><strong>Cayuse</strong></a> does differently? Or are they within the same frame?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="VSP example" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/VSP-example.jpg" title="VSP example" rel="lightbox[4351]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/VSP-example-156x160.jpg" alt="" title="VSP example" width="156" height="160" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-4365" /></a><strong>RC</strong>  Well, Christophe is doing the VSP system as well, as far as I know. He hangs the cordons a little lower to the ground to get some more heat from the rocks, obviously. I think he&#8217;s hanging one to two clusters per shoot. He&#8217;s biodynamic. So, no spray program, no pesticides, that I&#8217;m aware of. But he&#8217;s very secretive. So this is all guessing. He&#8217;s a very cool guy. I&#8217;ve gotten to know him pretty well. I&#8217;ve got nothing but good things to say about him. Half the people in Walla Walla hate him, half the people like him. I think he&#8217;s a cool dude. I would say that his sites are truly terroir. His is all native yeast fermentations from what I know. They tend to be really high pH, low acid, kind of stinky wines. That&#8217;s all I know. I don&#8217;t think he is doing anything out of the ordinary, apart from Biodynamics.<br />
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<em>My real question was whether you felt there was a sufficient multiplicity of voices giving advice to the emerging AVA. Can those currently available handle all the exigencies and differences of the multiple terroirs available in Walla Walla?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  Oh, yeah. I think that&#8217;s the most exciting part, frankly. If you look at two of my wines, the one that you got, the &#8216;07, that&#8217;s basically a two vineyard blend, 80% Va Piano, 20% Les Collines. That&#8217;s a pretty big, powerful wine. I don&#8217;t want to say feminine, but Les Collines is definitely more feminine than Va Piano. My point is that I try to make two distinct Syrahs. Some people like Syrahs that are a little bit bigger, more powerful, with a little bit more viscosity. And Les Collines is like that beautiful lady in a red dress walking to the theater. Those sites, Les Collines and Va Piano, are literally four miles apart and the fruit is totally different. That&#8217;s the beauty of Walla Walla.<br />
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<em>What is it that readers should know about Kerloo Cellars wines?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  My goal is to make wines that are true to varietal. I&#8217;m not going to make wines that have 1% Petit Verdot, 2% Cabernet Franc, 3% Cabernet Sauvignon&#8230; I really want the varietal to speak for itself. It is a harder way to make the juice, but that is my way. So you&#8217;ll see a 100% commitment to true varietal wines with Kerloo wines across the board. What that gives me is palate challenging wines from carefully selected sites. I don&#8217;t make oak bombs. I use oak minimally, usually about 20% new wood. Right now I&#8217;m at 22% new wood with my &#8217;08s. My Malbec and Grenache are at about 25% new wood. Everything is going to be under 30%.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Ryan and Renee of Kerloo" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Ryan-and-Renee-of-Kerloo.jpg" title="Ryan and Renee of Kerloo" rel="lightbox[4351]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Ryan-and-Renee-of-Kerloo-300x276.jpg" alt="" title="Ryan and Renee of Kerloo" width="300" height="276" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4361" /></a>When we started the brand, we meaning my wife and I, we asked how did we want to do this? I already had a style in mind. We wanted to build a brand similar to us: <strong>Simple and Sexy</strong>. My goal is never to walk away from the project. I&#8217;ll always be making the juice. I want everyone to know that. I&#8217;m not looking to hire someone to take over the program because I always want to be the face of the brand. And we&#8217;re only going to make 1,500 cases max. Between 200 and 400 cases of that is going to go to the wine club. The 1000 cases left are going to be the only things you can get. It&#8217;s a chance to be exclusive and really give our customers a chance to get to know us on a personal basis.<br />
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<em>While I was in Walla Walla, it was often been pointed out to me that one of Sean&#8217;s Rôties received 2 stars and your Kerloo received 3 stars at a particular tasting. Why do you think this happened?  Actually, I think it was Sean who first brought it up!</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  (laughs) That&#8217;s hilarious. This is kind of a funny story. A wine writer, <a href="http://www.wawinereport.com/" title=Sean Sullivan"><strong>Sean Sullivan</strong></a>, out of Seattle, a very cool guy, he found me way back in the day. I haven&#8217;t been making wine that long, but he was there right when I started; I mean, I had 8 barrels when he came out and tasted with me. I had just put my &#8217;08s to barrel, I think. So he did a focus report on both me and Sean [Boyd of Rôtie) about assistant winemakers starting their own brands in Walla Walla. I'm not totally sure why the ratings were different. Sean goes to bottle a lot earlier than I do. I'm guaranteed 16 to 22 months in barrel and then another 4 to 6 months in bottle before I release. So I'm not sure if it was that the wine tasted more mature. I don't know if my style is more to the liking of Sean Sullivan's palate. I would say my '07s are bigger and have more weight than Sean's just because of our styles. In '07 I tried to make little bit bigger wines. And I think that Sean's are a little more lean and fresh, on the brighter side. Mine are a little bit more on the massive side. But I didn't even ask Sean [Sullivan] about it.<br />
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But Sean [Boyd] got a 94 with his &#8216;07 Southern in the Wine Enthusiast or Wine Spectator, I&#8217;m not sure which one. Hey, dude, that ain&#8217;t too shabby! The only other thing is that I&#8217;m better looking than Sean! And I think I have a better sense of humor; I throw things around a little bit more than old Boydie. So maybe the additional star was for my shining personality!<br />
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<em>So whose wife is the better cook?</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong> (laughing) Well, my wife took off this morning on a business trip to the fine town of Cleveland. So she&#8217;s not here. Annie is the better cook, his wife. No doubt about it. But Sean is a better cook than me as well. I barbeque just as good as Sean. But Sean is a little better cook than I am. I just tell him, &#8220;Don&#8217;t worry, Sean. You cook, I&#8217;ll make the wine!&#8221;<br />
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<em>Well, it was a great pleasure to speak to you, Ryan.</em><br />
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<strong>RC</strong>  You too, Ken. Take care.<br />
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		<title>The Smartest Man In The Room, Billo Naravane of Rasa Vineyards</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I met Yashodhan (Billo) Naravane (right) at the Three Rivers Winery. He was member of one of many panel discussion organized, in part, by the good offices of the Wine Bloggers Conference spread among wineries throughout the Walla Walla Valley. Though meant to be instructional in character, centering on explaining the basics of the Walla [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="lightbox"  title ="pinto-billo-naravane" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/pinto-billo-naravane1.jpg" title="pinto-billo-naravane" rel="lightbox[4320]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/pinto-billo-naravane1-160x157.jpg" alt="" title="pinto-billo-naravane" width="160" height="157" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-4339" /></a>I met Yashodhan (Billo) Naravane <em>(right)</em> at the <a href="http://www.threeriverswinery.com/" title="Three Rivers Winery"><strong>Three Rivers Winery</strong></a>. He was member of one of many panel discussion organized, in part, by the good offices of the Wine Bloggers Conference spread among wineries throughout the Walla Walla Valley. Though meant to be instructional in character, centering on explaining the basics of the Walla Walla AVA, it became very clear to me that this gentleman was no ordinary panelist. It turned out uttering generalities is not where Billo excels. His is a very disciplined mind, a curious mind, exulting in a profound natural intellectual freedom and flexibility rarely encountered outside of a university setting. He and his equally gifted brother, Pinto <em>(left)</em>, founded <a href="http://rasavineyards.com/" title=Rasa Vineyards"><strong>Rasa Vineyards</strong></a> in 2007. And in just a few short years they have demonstrated an understanding of viticulture and winemaking which repeats in yet another field their considerable academic achievements. But inasmuch as this is an interview with Billo, we may read a fragment of <a href="http://rasavineyards.com/aboutus" title="Billo's CV"><strong>his CV below</strong></a>:<br />
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<strong>&#8220;Billo has worked in various technical and managerial positions in the Computer Industry for over a decade and a half. Billo received his BS in Applied Mathematics and Computer Science from MIT and his MS in Electrical Engineering from Stanford University. Billo finished his MS in Viticulture and Enology at UC Davis in June 2008 and is currently running the Viticulture program at Walla Walla Community College.&#8221;</strong><br />
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But as I was to learn, the CV is by no means complete. As you will read below, Billo is launching new projects that will require significant modification of the thumbnail bio above. Please enjoy my encounter with Billo, without a doubt, the smartest man in the room.<br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong> <em>So let&#8217;s jump into the middle of things. Tell me about your wines.</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="QED Front Label" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/QED-Front-Label.jpg" title="QED Front Label" rel="lightbox[4320]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/QED-Front-Label-300x237.jpg" alt="" title="QED Front Label" width="300" height="237" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4321" /></a><strong>Billo Naravane</strong>  We were interested from the beginning in building a luxury brand. This was when the economy was good. So, we initially poured our wines for MWs, and told them that the price points <a href="http://rasavineyards.com/order_form" title="Order link"><strong>[for QED and Principia]</strong></a> were $65 and $75. We asked for an honest critique of the wines. We got great feedback, they were said to be beautiful wines, worth the money; but the economy was not the greatest. They suggested pricing it a little bit lower, it might be to our advantage. So we had to go back to our investors, and we decided to price the wine, the QED, at $50. Now, $50 <em>is</em> expensive. We&#8217;re not delusional. But that wine I think offers an extremely great value for the money.<br />
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We&#8217;ve had it in blind tastings with some of the very best wines in the world: <a href="http://www.guigal.com/actualites_detail.php?langue=en&#038;rub=5&#038;srub=71" title="Guigal"><strong>Guigal</strong></a>&#8217;s La Landonne, La Mouline, Henschke&#8217;s <a href="http://www.henschke.com.au/wines/?wine=13" title="Hill of Grace"><strong>Hill of Grace</strong></a>, against <a href="http://www.penfolds.com/home.asp" title="Grange"><strong>Grange</strong></a>, you name it, it&#8217;s been blind tasted against it. It really holds its own against the best wines in the world. So, that wine is 94% Syrah, 3% Grenache, and 3% Mourvèdre. It is mostly <a href="http://www.lescollines.com/Welcome_to_Les_Collines_Vineyard.html" title="Les Collines"><strong>Les Collines</strong></a>; the Syrah is about 85% from Les Collines Vineyard.<br />
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<em>I hear Les Collines being referred to constantly.</em><br />
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<strong>BN</strong>  Les Collines is a great vineyard. It&#8217;s a huge property, 300 acres, or so, I think are planted up there. There is a wide degree of variation within the different blocks of the vineyard. It is not an homogenous terroir. Some blocks I really like; there are two we sourced from for the &#8216;07. One block had this really earthy, mineraly, almost truffle-type character underlying the core of fruit. The fruit is this black berry, black cherry on the Syrah, but has this depth to it. The aromatics are fantastic form that property as well. The finish is sometimes not the greatest. The finish is nice; it&#8217;s just not as long as we would like it for a high-end Syrah. So we have to address that via blending.<br />
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I&#8217;m a big fan of blending in that when done correctly you can achieve an aromatic complexity and a palate complexity, <em>and</em> broaden the finish out, rather than using just one specific wine. Now the trick, however, is that we&#8217;re also big fans of terroir, so how do you preserve the Walla Walla sense of terroir in a blended wine. That tricky to do. Blending is highly non-linear. You can put in 2% to 3%  of something yet change it by 30%. So you have to be very careful not to obliterate a sense of place, of terroir in blending. But what we&#8217;re trying to do, being technically minded, we go through every permutation in the blending process. We do all the samples. Me and my brother then go through all of them, we argue back and forth, and then we decide on the final blend, whatever tastes the best and still preserves that terroir of Walla Walla or of any other region.<br />
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In that year, 2007, it was 94% Syrah, 3% of Grenache, Mourvèdre. In 2008 the blend has been different. Our QED will always be a Grenache/Mourvèdre blend, but the percentages will be different based on what the year gave us. 2007 was a very warm year, so we got riper fruit versus 2008, which was a pretty cool year. So, stylistically, our Rasa wines are more along the lines of French wines rather than California. We are huge, huge Francophiles. We love the great Rhone wines, Bordeaux, and Burgundy as well. But we don&#8217;t make a Pinot Noir&#8230; yet! We amy do so in the future.<br />
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<em>Best of luck with a Pinot!</em><br />
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<strong>BN</strong>  We were introduced to a gentleman who owns a small block of Pinot Noir, so we may try it out, not this year but next. Pinot is not something I&#8217;ve worked with yet. I&#8217;m really kind of anxious to try it.<br />
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<em>That reminds me. Rasa is the rough Indian equivalent of the word terroir. Could you explain the distinctions between the two concepts, if any?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="rasafontA" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/rasafontA.jpg" title="rasafontA" rel="lightbox[4320]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/rasafontA-300x280.jpg" alt="" title="rasafontA" width="300" height="280" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4329" /></a><strong>BN</strong>  So the actual root of the word Rasa, it&#8217;s from Sanscrit, technically, though it can be used in a couple of different contexts, in one context it means <em>essence</em>. For us that is essence of soil and variety. And almost in a slang parlance, it can mean juice. So we have this essence and juice concept that is the closest word we&#8217;ve found that is also relatively easy to remember. Some of the related Indian words can get quite long and complex, hard to remember. We were looking for a word that tied together wine and our heritage. My uncle is the one who thought of it. He speaks Sanskrit. He&#8217;s not a wine aficionado, but after explaining what we were doing, about terroir and why it was so important to us, he thought up the word. We fell in love with it. It&#8217;s a great name! (laughs)<br />
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We&#8217;re originally from India; me and my brother were born in India. Our parents moved to New Jersey when I was turning 6, my brother was 8. We just wanted to have a tie-back to our heritage and still have something that was easy to remember, and with a wine connotation.<br />
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<em>You mentioned that you initially tasted widely throughout the Walla Walla AVA. And we know the AVA is still in the process of being defined, the proper terroir for which grape, and so on. So, what are the relative merits and demerits of having a Washington State designation as opposed to having a Walla Walla AVA designation? In a conversation with Sean Boyd of Rôtie he said that the AVA designation, though not irrelevant, will not necessarily result in the best wines. He is willing to sacrifice, especially for so young an AVA, a specific designation in favor of an overall quality.</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Rocky Rasa Vineyard" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Rocky-Rasa-Vineyard.jpg" title="Rocky Rasa Vineyard" rel="lightbox[4320]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Rocky-Rasa-Vineyard-300x194.jpg" alt="" title="Rocky Rasa Vineyard" width="300" height="194" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4337" /></a><strong>BN</strong>  I tend to agree with Sean. In our 2007 QED we did source the Grenache and Mourvèdre from Minick Vineyard over in Prosser. We also had a little Lewis Vineyard Syrah in there, which is also from Prosser, over in Yakima. Now, Grenache and Mourvèdre are not best for our area. Let me put it this way: I haven&#8217;t tasted great Grenache and Mourvèdre grown here in Walla Walla. Now, this is all price point dependent. I&#8217;m talking about a $50 and up price point wine. You can definitely grow good enough quality Grenache and Mourvèdre here for a $20 bottle. I&#8217;m not questioning that. But for a quality that you want to deliver at that higher price point, we&#8217;ve just not found that yet in Walla Walla. So we have to look elsewhere. And we found this great cooler climate site. We would much rather get this cooler climate fruit. We like the acidity to be preserved naturally, and to get that balanced flavor development, rather difficult at a super warm site. The cooler sites tend to give wines that are much more elegant and refined.<br />
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We don&#8217;t want to be making wines that are 16% alcohol. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with those types of wines; they&#8217;re just not stylistically what were going after. I still do enjoy the occasional Australian Shiraz, but I tend to prefer Rhone style for Syrah.<br />
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We are after making the best wine possible. While we want to remain as true as possible to terroir, we want to make the best wine possible. For the QED, since we could not get the Grenache and Mourvèdre of a sufficiently high quality, we needed to go outside the AVA. We don&#8217;t see that as being contradictory. And if you taste the QED, that is a Walla Walla wine; 91% of the fruit is from here. It is in the blending process that you have to be very judicious to maintain the sense of terroir.  One of our blends during the trial phase, when we were going through all the possible blends for the QED, it was roughly 5% Grenache, 7% Mourvèdre, and the balance Syrah. That did not taste like a Walla Walla AVA wine. We did not go with that blend even though it was pretty tasty because it did not taste like it came from the AVA.<br />
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<em>You seem to have been blessed with an extraordinary palate. I was reading one of your blog entries about a tasting party you attended some time ago. Could you say something about your tasting history?</em><br />
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<strong>BN</strong>  I&#8217;ve been extremely fortunate. When I lived in Austin I had a bunch of very eclectic wine collector friends that I had met throughout the years. It was a wine group we started called the S.O.B.s, the Sons of Bacchus. That name was quite fitting for the group in many respects! They were from many different backgrounds. And some had been collecting for many, many years, 30-40 years. They had these amazing wine cellars. We got to be such good friends that when invited over they would pull these unbelievable bottles of wine: an &#8216;82 Mouton, &#8216;61 Lafite, these crazy wines I had the privilege to taste. My brother had a similar experience in New Jersey. We really have tasted, just through really good friends, some of the best wines that have ever been made. One time I got to taste a 1900 Chateau Margaux, and the &#8216;47 Cheval Blanc, all these wines that are considered to be the best wines ever made. That is one the the biggest strengths that Pinto and I bring to the winemaking process. We are able to recognize, or at least have a perspective, of the best wines ever made. We bring that to our blending and winemaking processes.<br />
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It is kind of startling to me how many wine people I&#8217;ve met here in Washington, many of them winemakers, who have never tasted a first growth! They probably couldn&#8217;t tell you who the first growths are. It&#8217;s kind of shocking to me. I would wonder that if you don&#8217;t have it in your head what great wine is, then how do you know when you&#8217;ve made one?<br />
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<em>That&#8217;s a very interesting question, and it bears upon the question of wine education, certainly of the average drinker, to the degree there is such a thing. There is a problem within marketing, I would argue, that through a series of commercial feedback loops, they work to maintain a certain level of knowledge, or, alternatively, of ignorance, amongst the wine-drinking public. It is very difficult to know how to challenge that, how to convince people there are depths to wine that can essentially change your life. How would you go about educating people to continue looking and searching for wines of</em> revelation <em>rather than listen to marketers, who have an interest, after all, in limiting that same revelation?</em><br />
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<strong>BN</strong>  Boy, that&#8217;s a really good question. I don&#8217;t have a good answer. At some point everyone needs to have a friend, or somebody who is into wine, to expose you to an Aha! moment where you taste a great wine that is compelling and kind of leaves you <em>speechless</em>. It is that experience that everybody needs to have. That&#8217;s when they realize that there is something to this wine thing. My moment was when I was just starting out in wine. When I lived in California I used to go up to Napa a lot back in 1990 and &#8216;91. Back then you could go tasting all day in Napa for free. It was great for people just out of college, who had no money and could drink for free. But after doing this, me and my brother started to recognizing the differences between Pinot Noir and Cabernet. Wow, there must be something to this wine thing! It may not be all bullshit!<br />
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And then I had an experience in &#8216;91. I was at a store called <a href="http://www.beltramos.com/" title="Beltramos"><strong>Beltramos</strong></a>. I lived only 3 miles from there at the time. I believe it was the &#8216;86 d&#8217;Yquem that was just being released. And they were pouring it in their wine bar. At that time I did not know d&#8217;Yquem from anything. There were 3 other Sauternes they were pouring. They cost $3 for a taste of them. The d&#8217;Yquem was an additional $10 to taste. At that time I thought, Wow!, I couldn&#8217;t afford that. But there was an obviously wealthy woman there. She tried the wines, took a sip out of each one, and left. I asked the guy behind the counter if the d&#8217;Yquem was really worth $10 for just a taste? He said it was one of the best wines made in the world, &#8220;You should try it.&#8221; He let me take over the wines the lady left. The d&#8217;Yquem was my Aha! wine. It floored me. I had never ever smelled or tasted such an amazing array of things. It was indescribable. I could not find the words&#8230; My perspective on wine changed immediately. I began reading books on wine, going to Napa, not to just get loaded, but to actually meet with winemakers and learn about wine. The passion just went crazy after that. Then we became serious collectors. That was our downfall! (laughs)<br />
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To get people jazzed about wine they need to taste something that blows them away, and that they can&#8217;t quite put into words. For a friend of mine, it was the &#8216;90 Lafite. For another it was a Beringer Private Reserve Cabernet. It&#8217;s fun to hear people tell you what wine did it for them!<br />
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<em>Now, you are also a teacher at the local community college. How did you assume the teaching position, and in the local colleges, how long have viticulture and enology programs been offered?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="PrincipiaFront" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/PrincipiaFront.jpg" title="PrincipiaFront" rel="lightbox[4320]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/PrincipiaFront-300x237.jpg" alt="" title="PrincipiaFront" width="300" height="237" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4335" /></a><strong>BN</strong>  That&#8217;s a good question. I&#8217;ve always enjoyed teaching. When I was at MIT and Stanford, and U.T. Austin, I had the opportunity to teach mathematics classes here and there. I&#8217;ve taught Calculus and Differential Equations, Probability Theory, even a Pascal Programming class, and it was always a lot of fun. And when I moved here to Walla Walla in 2008, I was tasting wine at an event over at <a href="http://www.dunhamcellars.com/" title="Dunham"><strong>Dunam Cellars</strong></a>, and I started talking to a gentleman who, after a half an hour, began asking where I went to school and what was my background. He suddenly asked, &#8220;Can you teach viticulture?&#8221; &#8220;Sure!&#8221;  When I was at Davis I took all the classes in both viticulture and winemaking. So it happened that the previous instructor had unexpectedly passed recently. So again I began teaching in January of 2009. I took over the viticulture position.<br />
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That having been said, I just resigned a couple of weeks ago. I did enjoy the teaching aspect of it quite a bit. Community College is an interesting place. You have students from very wide backgrounds. Teaching in places like Stanford, everybody has a similar background. They have a similar intellectual capacity. At a community college you have students that are super bright to those who I could not quite figure out why they were there. It was a little bit frustrating at times. But I had more frustration with the management there, rather than the students.<br />
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I took the tack that I would teach roughly 50% of the viticulture material that we did at Davis. I figured that was a reasonable target. But on no less than 5 separate occasions, the director of the program came in said that I had to dumb down the material. The last time I was approached was in April. I then knew this was not the right place for me to teach. I had tried to make some adjustments. But when eventually I was teaching only 25% of the material they should be learning, I really considered it less than a viticulture class then a viticulture-like class. I didn&#8217;t feel good about teaching it. I think the management there is a bit misguided. With the rising competition from other programs at other schools, it makes no sense to take ours out of contention.<br />
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At Washington State University (WSU) they recently hired a great, great director, <a href="http://www.tricity.wsu.edu/viticulture/facultystaff.html" title="Dr. Henick-Kling"><strong>Dr. Henick-Kling</strong></a>. He&#8217;s very well known in viticultural and enology circles. He&#8217;s going to raise that program up to probably compete with UC Davis at some point. I talked with him, and I was thinking of doing my PhD there. He gave me a run down of his vision where WSU is going to go. If he executes, it&#8217;s going to be a great program. It will produce 40 to 50 undergraduates a year, and 10 or so Master students a year. And you&#8217;ve got other programs cropping up in Yakima and South Seattle; and then we have Walla Walla Community College that wants to diminish the quality of their program. That doesn&#8217;t make any sense to me. It&#8217;s a bit short-sighted.<br />
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<em>That is unfortunate. They may well be in the process of becoming an irrelevant institution just when the region needs qualified people the most. I hope the transition is not too jarring, but about pesticides, I&#8217;ve noticed that a number of vineyards in the valley, even some near Cayuse, a biodynamic property, are fringed or surrounded by apple orchards and other crops that require a substantial use of pesticides. I was told that Japan, for example, demands perfect apples. Many tons come from the Walla Walla Valley. Now, for someone who aspires to something like an organic status for their vineyard, what are the tensions, if any, between fruit farmers and grape growers? I asked this question of the winemaker at <a href="http://www.butywinery.com/butywinery/index.jsp" title="Buty"><strong>Buty</strong></a>. He said that although the fruit trees bordering his property are heavily spray, he just doesn&#8217;t pay attention to its impact on his vineyard! So, what is going on?</em><br />
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<strong>BN</strong>  I can&#8217;t imagine how there couldn&#8217;t be conflict because of the proximity of these orchard sites to vineyards. They really are often on top of one another. As best as could have been done, they have put restrictions on the application and the timing of the sprays. They are not allowed to spray if the winds are more than 3 or 4 miles an hour to contain the drift, for example. Now, on the local basis you can&#8217;t tell a specific orchard owner that they can&#8217;t spray something that is legal for them to apply. There is this whole question of legality versus sustainability, organic and biodynamic. So just because you <em>can</em> spray something, doesn&#8217;t mean you <em>should</em>. And if you are going to spray something, then you&#8217;ll probably want to do it in the least invasive manner as possible. So overall there is a great deal of friendship and trust between the growers that they are not going to do something that is going to damage their neighbor&#8217;s crop. People here are very cognizant and willing to work together, which is great.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="200px-2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic_acid_Tubes" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/200px-24-Dichlorophenoxyacetic_acid_Tubes.jpg" title="200px-2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic_acid_Tubes" rel="lightbox[4320]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/200px-24-Dichlorophenoxyacetic_acid_Tubes.jpg" alt="" title="200px-2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic_acid_Tubes" width="200" height="133" class="alignright size-full wp-image-4323" /></a>That being said, if you have a biodynamic site and your neighbor does not, how do prevent somethings from coming over? Some drift is inevitable. In fact, the biggest case is probably <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic_acid" title="2,4-D"><strong>2,4-D</strong></a>. This is something a lot of the wheat farmers like to use to contain weeds. However, 2,4-D is extremely toxic to vines. I mean, just a small amount of 2,4-D drift coming onto your vines causes serious damage; you will essentially see the arrest of the photosynthetic capability of the vine once just a little bit of 2,4-D gets drifted onto it. With this we have been seeing a little bit of contention between people using 2,4-D versus people who don&#8217;t want it used because it is affecting their grapevines. Some of these things need to be sorted out. But the spirit is generally one of cooperation.<br />
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<em>And could you discuss the difficult issue of the local migrant labor force? What is the local mentality?</em><br />
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<strong>BN</strong>  Hmm. Ask 10 people you&#8217;ll get 10 different opinions. In general, while I would prefer people to be properly documented &#8211; when we came over, we&#8217;re immigrants, we had to go through the whole process, the Green Card, the Passport &#8211; I would appreciate everybody to do that and respect the laws of the country. But we realize that there are some kinds of labor Americans don&#8217;t want to do. The laborers here during harvest are great people. They want to work. They are very industrious. They work hard and get the job done effectively. It needs to be addressed at the Federal level. I&#8217;m kind of for giving amnesty for the people who are already here, and getting them appropriately documented. This might curtail future people from coming in. But all the workers I&#8217;ve met here have all been tremendously great people.<br />
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<em>I must congratulate you and your brother on your extraordinary success. You&#8217;ve gone from 0 to 60 in nothing flat. You&#8217;re one of the brightest individuals I&#8217;ve ever met. Maybe you should become the president of the community college! What are your plans for the future? What are you academic plans, if any?</em><br />
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<strong>BN</strong>  I still do have aspirations to complete my PhD. I have worked in Theoretical Mathematics, kind of at the cusp of Electrical Engineering, so I toy with the idea of going back to mathematics or possibly doing something in Plant Physiology or Viticulture. Right now my focus is to get Rasa to be successful. I think we are headed on the right trajectory. Our wines are improving. We&#8217;re just beginning to get positive praise from the critics. We&#8217;re having the major critics coming through right now. Jay Miller was here just a couple of weeks ago. Tanzer is coming soon. I can see success on the horizon. Once that is done, I think I&#8217;ll pursue my PhD.<br />
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<em>An extraordinary pleasure, Billo. Thank you.</em><br />
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<strong>BN</strong>  Thank you, Ken.<br />
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		<title>From Tasting Room To Winery With Sean Boyd of Rotie Cellars</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anonymity. It is one of the great difficulties facing the young winemaker. How to break through the wall of advertorial noise, the clamor, protectively surrounding established labels? The quality is there. The dedication, the labor. But absent good fortune or dumb luck, the new kid on the block faces a long slog toward much deserved [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="lightbox"  title ="Rotie Cellars logo" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Rotie-Cellars-logo.jpg" title="Rotie Cellars logo" rel="lightbox[4298]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Rotie-Cellars-logo-300x187.jpg" alt="" title="Rotie Cellars logo" width="300" height="187" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4307" /></a>Anonymity. It is one of the great difficulties facing the young winemaker. How to break through the wall of advertorial noise, the clamor, protectively surrounding established labels? The quality is there. The dedication, the labor. But absent good fortune or dumb luck, the new kid on the block faces a long slog toward much deserved recognition. And this is as it should be within the marketing ecosystem. Indeed, during my recent participation in the Wine Bloggers Conference there was not an &#8216;official&#8217; word spoken of a number of very good small producers, <a href="http://www.sapolilcellars.com/" title="Sapolil"><strong>Sapolil Cellars</strong></a>, <a href="http://www.sapolilcellars.com/" title="Stephenson"><strong>Stephenson Cellars</strong></a>, <a href="http://www.kerloocellars.com/" title="Kerloo"><strong>Kerloo</strong></a> and, of course, <a href="http://www.rotiecellars.com/" title="Rôtie"><strong>Rôtie</strong></a>. To be mentioned in the &#8216;official&#8217; literature costs money the little guy does not always have. So it falls to independently-minded bloggers, caring only for wines of quality and of story, to pound the pavement to find them.<br />
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And Sean Boyd of Rôtie Cellars has very good karma, if I may put it that way. For so great is the reservoir of good will and reputation for quality he has built up within the Walla Walla wine community that his efforts are on the minds of the locals. It is for this reason tha when researching an entirely different story, I stumbled into <a href="http://www.vintagewinebar.org/" title="Vintage Cellars"><strong>Vintage Cellars</strong></a> and met the exquisite Megan Bosworth working there. She told me there was someone I should meet, a certain winemaker I should know about. Come back at 5 o&#8217;clock. I did, and met Rôtie&#8217;s lovely marketing whiz Nicole Rivinius, also an employee of Vintage Cellars, and Sean Boyd himself. The results may be read <a href="http://reignofterroir.com/2010/06/24/sean-boyd-of-rotie-cellars-walla-walla/" title="Reign"><strong>here</strong></a>.<br />
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Ms. Rivinius worked the next day to diligently arrange a tasting at <a href="http://www.rotiecellars.com/" title="link"><strong>Rôtie&#8217;s</strong></a> freshly minted tasting room. I dragged several important wine writers along, including Hoke Harden, Remy Charest and Joe Roberts. Hoke Harden over at Elixir Vitae <a href="http://violentfermentation.blogspot.com/2010/07/rotie-another-walla-walla-wine-epiphany.html" title="Elixir"><strong>has written</strong></a> a very entertaining and informative piece on our experience there.<br />
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What follows is an account of the balance of my time with Mr. Boyd. I should mention that I was asked not to reveal certain vineyards from which Mr. Boyd sources some of his fruit. I have honored that request.<br />
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<strong>In The Tasting Room</strong><br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong>  I like this. It&#8217;s a nice space. Simple.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Nicole's sanctuary" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Nicoles-sanctuary.jpg" title="Nicole&#039;s sanctuary" rel="lightbox[4298]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Nicoles-sanctuary-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Nicole&#039;s sanctuary" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4301" /></a><strong>Sean Boyd</strong>  This is Nicole&#8217;s sanctuary. She sells the stuff; I just make it. Let&#8217;s get you some bottles. You have to promise me that you go to Saffron, the best restaurant here in town.  Well, that&#8217;s the line-up. The VDP, the vin de pays, which means country wine, has some of my most expensive fruit. But it just wouldn&#8217;t blend into the Northern. I make about 70 barrels a year, and I sell off about 30. I pick the best barrels that I possible can for the wine club. So nobody really gets this. Let me find you a box&#8230;<br />
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<em>These are for me? Are you shittin&#8217; me?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="their line up" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/their-line-up.jpg" title="their line up" rel="lightbox[4298]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/their-line-up-160x120.jpg" alt="" title="their line up" width="160" height="120" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-4303" /></a><strong>SB</strong>  Yes. You got to taste the wines to see if you like them. You&#8217;ve got to open these f*ckers up, shake them up, because they&#8217;re &#8217;08s. Open them up in the morning. They&#8217;ll hang very well. They&#8217;re very tight.<br />
Our white is a Roussanne and Viognier, a 50/50 blend. The &#8217;09s will be 50% Viognier, 30% Roussanne, and 20% Marsanne. Marsanne is my new favorite grape. The &#8216;08 was a little heavy handed with the Roussanne, I think. I was really trying to dial in the first year by playing with Roussanne. I learned a lot. It&#8217;s a very heavy, viscous grape. I stopped it from going through secondary fermentation, so it&#8217;s as crisp as they come. It&#8217;s definitely elegant, but its got a weighty back-end. You only really realize how much acid it has when you have it with food because it really clears the palate. But you still think of it as having gone through secondary. So adding Marsanne really helped in &#8216;09. Sommeliers love it, but they&#8217;re definitely in the minority. We definitely have a good following with the white, but not everybody is there. Some say, &#8220;Ooh! That&#8217;s a little different. But there is no oak and no butter!?&#8221;<br />
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The Southern is 70% Grenache, 15% Mourvédre, 15% Syrah, all from Horse Heaven Hills. That is the one that does well with awards. The Northern, co-fermented Syrah and Viognier, comes from 4 different vineyards. Definitely give these babies some air. Please. Please, please.<br />
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<em>These will be much appreciated. I have a bit of a European palate. Living in California can be difficult&#8230; And I&#8217;m not crazy about grotesque amounts of oak. You know the story&#8230;</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Hopefully you don&#8217;t mind grotesque amounts of fruit!  Are you going to drink wine tonight?<br />
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<em>I&#8217;ve got some writing to do. Yes.</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Here&#8217;s one from the last four cases of &#8216;07 [55% Grenache, 35% Syrah, 10% Mourvédre]. These cases came back from California battered and bruised from the transit. I have no clue what happened to them. So try that tonight.<br />
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<em>Thank you, Sean. It&#8217;s extraordinarily generous of you.</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Hey, you&#8217;ve got to buy off the Press, even if you get shitty stories off of it. That&#8217;s just the way the world works. (laughs)<br />
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<em>Well, in my case, what I typically do is just turn on the mic. I then will transcribe verbatim, along with my questions and narrative ornaments, of course. This is an extreme case, but I recently interviewed Tim Thornhill of Parducci. I had to get completely the hell out of the way for that one. But I like minimal intervention, a more documentary approach.</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  That&#8217;s how we sell wine. I had a guy selling wine for me in Seattle. I asked him, &#8220;Jesus! How are you selling all this wine?&#8221;  He used to say, &#8220;Well, what I do is ask for a wine list and a menu when I first sit down. I open up the wines. I act like I&#8217;m looking at both menu and wine list. I let them all talk; they all like talking. And all I do is nod once and a while; and they buy.&#8221;  I thought that was ingenious! Everybody likes to hear themselves talk, especially in this industry. There are so many egos and heads out there.<br />
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<strong>In The Winery</strong><br />
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<strong>Sean Boyd</strong>  This is my playground. Here in this winery we&#8217;ve got <a href="http://www.winesofsubstance.com/" title="Wines of Substance"><strong>Wines of Substance</strong></a>, which it <a href="http://waterswinery.com/" title="Waters"><strong>Waters&#8217;</strong></a> second label. They split some with <a href="http://gramercycellars.com/" title="Gramercy"><strong>Gramercy</strong></a>. I think Gramercy has 10% ownership in Substance; Waters has 90%. Waters does about 3,000 cases; Substance is probably about 10,000 or 12,000 cases. And Gramercy makes their wine independently here. They are probably pushing 5-6,000 cases.<br />
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<em>It&#8217;s kind of a crush pad facility?</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Well, it&#8217;s definitely Waters&#8217; facility. It&#8217;s so capital intensive to build a winery. So us little gutter dogs like to come in, and for a reduced salary I make Rôtie Cellars here. It works well. I wasn&#8217;t born with $1,000,000 in the bank, or $5,000,000, which is probably be what it would take to get a nice facility.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Stainless fermenters" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Stainless-fermenters.jpg" title="Stainless fermenters" rel="lightbox[4298]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Stainless-fermenters-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Stainless fermenters" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4299" /></a>So basically, the fruit comes in half-ton bins. Then you go into either 3/4 or 1/2 ton fermenters. We love stainless steel. These are the best ones, these round, hot tub tanks. We had these designed so that we could control the fermentation temperature. If it gets too hot the yeast eats itself up. That death phase just kicks right in. Then you struggle through your fermentation. But if you can keep it at 75-78 degrees, then it is a nice, cool fermentation. It finishes a lot smoother. I really like having control. As the fruit is nearing dry, it&#8217;s nice to be able to also plug them in and heat them up. The worst thing you can do to wine is leave a little sugar in there for microbial growth. If I could have a winery loaded with these, it would be a no-brainer.<br />
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<em>By how much does the temperature vary in the Fall, I mean after harvest?</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  September is still pretty warm; but in October it is down to, well, here we get this diurnal shift, so it&#8217;s down to 45 degrees in the night, which is fine for barrels. Anything under 58 degrees is pretty good. We do almost all the fermentation indoors. We like to try and keep our VAs low. The coolness helps that. We do a lot of whole cluster fermentations, so those require some pump-overs, though we prefer to punch down. It&#8217;s fun to be able to have lots of small fermentations because you can really play around with what yeasts you&#8217;re using; you can try different lots, some with stem, some without.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Sean's barrels" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Seans-barrels.jpg" title="Sean&#039;s barrels" rel="lightbox[4298]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Seans-barrels-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Sean&#039;s barrels" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4309" /></a>The blending program here is based on the idea that you don&#8217;t just go off of the vineyard and how prestigious it is, or how much you loved the last year, or how fantastic it was when you picked it. It&#8217;s more along the lines of tasting everything every month. So if I have 7 different vineyards of Syrah, I&#8217;ll blind taste them with people whose palates I really respect. I don&#8217;t want to know what they are. I want to know what I like the most, not what vineyard I want to have in a bottle. Then it&#8217;s fun. You can figure out what you like. Some vineyards really surprise you. Doing it blind helps.<br />
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Some of the wines we&#8217;ll try today will include Grenache. I&#8217;ve just blended 2 blocks in their 13th and 14th leaf off of Horse Heaven Hills, from nice south-facing slopes, one is 28 brix, one is 24 brix. I&#8217;ve blended those because they had interesting phenols going on. Then there are 8 barrels of another Grenache, the vineyards of which is even further down the river. It&#8217;s turned out to be some of my best Grenache; 24 and 1/2 brix. It was picked in early November, really rare, because usually we have a freeze that come into Washington State by then; but this site is so hot, and as we talked about yesterday, it&#8217;s the kick-ass area for Rhones, for Grenaches and Mourvédres. It enjoys a super-long cycle, very temperate. It&#8217;s magical for those varietals (sic). You just have to find all the crazy people that started growing them 15 years ago! They are the fun ones. Shall we taste?<br />
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<em>Yes, of course. One quick technical question. How many punchdowns a day?</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Three. It depends. Your fermentation tells you what&#8217;s going on. If you&#8217;re smelling H2S you have to make Nitrogen additions. A punchdown can tell you a lot. If it was Pinot Noir, we&#8217;d go much lighter on it. We&#8217;d probably cover it. We&#8217;d let that heat and moisture just kind of work itself out. But with Grenache and Syrah you&#8217;re given a lot of leeway. It&#8217;s hard to beat them up too much. It&#8217;s just keeping the cap wet. Let&#8217;s taste through.<br />
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<em>You have distributors locally. What about back East, or California, for that matter?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Sean among the barrels" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Sean-among-the-barrels.jpg" title="Sean among the barrels" rel="lightbox[4298]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Sean-among-the-barrels-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Sean among the barrels" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4312" /></a><strong>SB</strong>  In California the market is just dead. We sold out of our &#8217;07s. And California still had 21 cases. But everybody seemed to want deals and deals and deals because the market is so saturated down there. So we pulled it. We&#8217;ll sell it here. I don&#8217;t want to make deals that will cheapen my brand. Seattle is my major market. There are not too many in Portland yet. Of the distribution, about 20% of production goes straight to Seattle. Most of the rest goes out of the tasting room.  It&#8217;s a double-edged sword. You want to sell it as close to retail as possible, but it is really important to service the accounts in Seattle so that you are seen. So that costs a certain percentage of the portfolio.<br />
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<strong><em>As we taste through the barrels, Sean explains his love of Grenache, especially when dominant in Châteauneuf-du-Papes. He rhapsodizes over Cornas, another passion we share. Some of the barrels are full of violets and roses, odors of an English garden spilling out. The Grenache in other barrels is lighter, leaner, almost Pinot in character. Still other barrels, whether of Syrah or Grenache, are bowls of fat blueberries, and marked by the occasional reductive character, mushroom and forest floor. Selection after barrel selection is of a very distinctive character. I begin to understand what Sean means by the winery being his playground. The blending opportunities are extraordinary. It is almost like the range of admixtures one might find in a perfumery. Sean&#8217;s talent is clearly in finding diverse vineyards from both within and without the AVA, and from varied elevations, that conform to his disciplined understanding of Rhone varietal correctness. And vineyard site variety is key. After all, for a Syrah pH that pushes 4 on the Walla Walla Valley floor, but that possesses a mid-palate he wants to preserve, Sean&#8217;s trick is not to add water or to acidulate (as one might with an estate designation), but to blend the softer expressions with, say, 24 degree brix juice with very high acidity from another locale. We were not able to taste the Mourvédre or Cinsault. It was being held at another facility. </em></strong><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  The first year I didn&#8217;t have enough contracts. But now I am able to pick and choose which vineyards and barrels I use. People ask why didn&#8217;t I try to extract more. That&#8217;s ridiculous. Grenache is mean to be a lighter color, leaner. Of some lots, I don&#8217;t tell too many people where I get it. I just say &#8216;down the river from Horse Heaven.&#8221; Can you leave the specific vineyard out?<br />
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<em>Of course.</em><br />
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<strong><em>I take one last picture of Mr. Boyd, one among his favorite barrels. I then take my leave, smarter, pleased to have played a roll, however small, in the celebration of this guy. He has good friends in Ms. Bosworth and Ms. Nivinius. He owes them a beer, or two.<br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong></em></strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the great advantages of arriving in Walla Walla earlier than the commencement of the Wine Bloggers Conference is the people you meet outside the official program. Always one to stray, I have been very fortunate to happen upon an excellent young winemaker, Sean Boyd, owner of Rôtie Cellars. He makes some of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="lightbox"  title ="Rotie Cellars logo" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Rotie-Cellars-logo.jpg" title="Rotie Cellars logo" rel="lightbox[4240]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Rotie-Cellars-logo-300x187.jpg" alt="" title="Rotie Cellars logo" width="300" height="187" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4243" /></a>One of the great advantages of arriving in Walla Walla earlier than the commencement of the Wine Bloggers Conference is the people you meet outside the official program. Always one to stray, I have been very fortunate to happen upon an excellent young winemaker, <a href="http://rotiecellars.com/about/winemaker-sean-boyd" title="Sean Boyd"><strong>Sean Boyd</strong></a>, owner of <a href="http://www.rotiecellars.com/" title="rotie"><strong>Rôtie Cellars</strong></a>. He makes some of the finest Rhone expressions in Washington State that I have had the pleasure to taste. EVER. He sells out quickly. His wines are sought after by sommeliers in Seattle, and they are very popular here. But he&#8217;s a small producer. And should he grow it will only be if he is certain that his fundamental winemaking philosophy remains firm. A glimpse of his approach, his <a href="http://rotiecellars.com/about/winemaking-ethos" title="ethos"><strong>ethos</strong></a>:<br />
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<strong>&#8220;The whole point of Rotie Cellars is to make traditional Rhone Blends with Washington State fruit. So what do traditional Rhone blends mean to me? To start with, they mean lower alcohol, less ripe, less wood, balanced, finesse driven, mouth coating wines.&#8221;</strong><br />
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But as I can personally attest, this is no mere marketing b.s. He believes what he says. And spend a few minutes with the man and it becomes crystal clear that he&#8217;s having the time of his life life making wine. The funny thing is is that he would be the first to shy away from the hype, to just laugh off the praise. As he says, &#8220;I&#8217;m just the janitor.&#8221; He believes all the quality his wines will ever have is achieved in the vineyard. Site location is of paramount importance, especially in the wide open spaces of the Walla Walla AVA and beyond.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="tasting room" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/tasting-room.jpg" title="tasting room" rel="lightbox[4240]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/tasting-room-160x120.jpg" alt="" title="tasting room" width="160" height="120" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-4249" /></a>The assembled bloggers for this weekend&#8217;s conference are fortunate that Côtie Cellars has just opened a tasting room that will be open tomorrow (Friday) and Saturday.  Sparsely decorated, with only lonely orchids blooming, you simply must make time to drop in while there are still wines of his to taste. It is located a couple of blocks from the Marcus Whitman, at 31 E. Main Street, Suite 216.<br />
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Though it is not my custom or style, I will make an exception and provide tasting notes on another occasion. For now enjoy a little time with the gentleman.<br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong>  So you like Rhone varieties?<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Sean Boyd" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Sean-Boyd.jpg" title="Sean Boyd" rel="lightbox[4240]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Sean-Boyd-225x300.jpg" alt="" title="Sean Boyd" width="225" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4242" /></a><strong>Sean Boyd</strong>  Yeah. Naming my winery Rôtie Cellars is a little cheeky, but I just wanted to focus on making what I love to drink. I thought it was a fad ten years ago, but it was always one of those constants. You know, when you start drinking wine, for me, it was Zins. I started with Zins out of Paso Robles. I started there. Then you realize your love for other wines. You&#8217;ve filled up your cellar and one day realize you can&#8217;t drink anything out of your cellar because you think they&#8217;re all disgusting. You&#8217;ve moved onto Pinots. Then you move on as your wine education develops. Then you move back to what you&#8217;ve always loved; for me, Rhones.<br />
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<em>Now, Cote Rôtie&#8217;s have higher acids, firm tannins, need aging&#8230;</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  For me it&#8217;s lower alcohol, less manipulation, finding sites that grow the vines very well. Walla Walla is a horrible place to grow Grenache. It&#8217;s a horrible place to grow Mourvèdre. Super long cycles, even longer than Cab. When you think about where Grenache and Mourvèdre come from, you think hot sites. Walla Walla is a much cooler site than a lot of the places around Washington. Now, I don&#8217;t want to put wines out that just say &#8216;Walla Walla&#8217; on them to sell bottles. It&#8217;s more about finding the best spots to grow the grapes. With Grenache and Mourvèdre, the best spots are along the Columbia River. Super high winds, south-facing slopes, so I found Horse Heaven Hills and north of the Hood River where you have the gorge&#8230; you have these constant winds. You don&#8217;t get hit by winter frosts.<br />
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Grenache is a very temperamental grape. It comes from hot climates. It does not like cold weather. So during the winters around Walla Walla the vine starts deteriorating at around 7 degrees F. Syrah, Cab, Merlot, they start deteriorating between -3 and -12 F. And so if you have a 24 to 36 hour period of sub-zero, which we do every three or four years here in the valley, people are having to cut it all back. And they&#8217;re wondering why it&#8217;s not waking up in the spring. The reason is that it just doesn&#8217;t like cold weather. But if you have that constant flow from the wind, when the temperature stays in the teens at sites nearer this gigantic river, the Columbia rolling through, it helps keep the ambient temperature down, plus you&#8217;ve got this wind flow. So for me, that whole area is going to be fantastic for Grenache.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="their line up" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/their-line-up.jpg" title="their line up" rel="lightbox[4240]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/their-line-up-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="their line up" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4252" /></a>That for me is the highlight of Washington State, those Rhone varietals. I&#8217;m picking stuff that&#8217;s 24-25 brix, letting it hang until early November; it comes off with fantastic acidity. Because of the long cycle, you get those fantastic ripe-picked characteristics, where it&#8217;s phenolically ripe yet it is lower alcohol. So, finding spots that grow grapes well is the battle. If you&#8217;re more focussed on estate vineyards, where you&#8217;re predicated on Riesling to Cab in the same 40 acre parcel, on the same plot of land, that makes no sense to me. You&#8217;re going to have different ripening times all throughout it.  Right now we have this incredible reservoir, especially with the crash of the economy, people are dropping out of vineyards left and right. So you&#8217;re able to find these incredible contracts, five acres for five years with an option for another five years. I&#8217;ll pay the going rate, no problem, with a 5% escalation clause, of course. Let&#8217;s see if we can manage it a little bit better. I want to chop it back to 2 1/2 tons per acre. Let&#8217;s just see where it goes from there. This after they&#8217;ve been producing 4 1/2 to 5 tons an acre because people are just looking for ordinary table wine. My idea is to concentrate the fruit, make some really fresh, high acidity wine by selective green cropping inside and outside of the canopy. Then it starts getting exciting.<br />
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<em>So you source along the Columbia Gorge?</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Yes. All throughout the Gorge. That&#8217;s Grenache and Mouvèdre. Now, the advantage of Walla Walla is the Syrah. Walla Walla <em>is</em> Syrah. It&#8217;s too cool, the cycle&#8217;s just not long enough; some years it&#8217;s fantastic, but for me it&#8217;s not long enough for Cab. It&#8217;s fantastic for Merlot; it&#8217;s a little earlier cycle than Syrah. But for Syrah it is just perfect here. It grows really well in the valley. Just beautiful, silky smooth tannins, plenty of color, just the way I like it. You can get reductive down on the rocks to super bright up on the loess&#8230; it&#8217;s a great spot for Syrah.<br />
And I like to bring in a little bit of edge with lots of stem fermentation.<br />
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<em>So you include stems? I love that. It&#8217;s considered heresy in certain parts of California. </em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Absolutely I use stems. A lot of it has to do with the sorting machines. The just chop away at the stems. You&#8217;re getting all these fractures, the little cuts, when chopped up by the de-stemmer. And if you don&#8217;t have a secondary sorting table, vibrating or what not, and you have guys picking out absolutely every little bit of green out of there, you&#8217;re not necessarily going to want that. You&#8217;re going to have greenness coming into your wine. At least if you do it with whole cluster, you&#8217;re getting away from all those little cuts that are happening when you&#8217;re sending it through a de-stemmer. It&#8217;s $150,000, $200,000 to get proper de-stemming equipment and sorters. It would be nice to have that kind of equipment to decide.  If your stems are super, super green then maybe we need not to use them. It will bring in too much <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrazine" title="pyrazine"><strong>pyrazine</strong></a>.<br />
Cab, you can&#8217;t really get away with putting lots of stems in. But with Syrah you don&#8217;t get those pyrazine issues, as you do with Bordeaux varietals. They would be super green: asparagus, green bean, pickles&#8230; but with Syrah using the stems really gives you that spice, that edge, it gives you that stinky funk that makes things interesting; so that it&#8217;s not just a bowl of fresh fruit.<br />
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<em>I imagine you use a bladder press.</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Yes, it&#8217;s a bladder press. We take all the free run out and mark them. Then with pressing we go up to about a bar, and we stay there after six or seven cycles. Some of the press juice is the best out of Syrah. We don&#8217;t do extended macerations. Most of the fermentations are done in 15 to 16 days. I&#8217;m not worried about color or extraction, and so some of the press stuff really gets nice tannin in there. I don&#8217;t like to rack. You leave the lees in there. Of course, you don&#8217;t want 4 inches of lees! But a good 1 or 2 is fine. Keep it sustained at the bottom of the barrel, keep it really topped, and as long as you&#8217;re not adding oxygen and that it goes through secondary, you&#8217;re fine. Then you become a janitor! This is really what winemakers are, glorified janitors. How you can get an ego about being a glorified janitor I&#8217;ll never know. Everything important is about getting it off the vine. You know what? I ike to be a janitor!<br />
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<em>How did you get your wine into the right hands? I mean, there are dozens and dozens of new wineries yet there is a lot of buzz about Côtie Cellars. How did you break through?</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  I think it&#8217;s that I really enjoy what I am doing. On the marketing end, I hire the right people. Actually, it&#8217;s cool. I have two people. They came to me. What more perfect situation can you have than people coming to you?  But it&#8217;s simply that good wine will sell.  People say Syrah is a bad word right now. Syrah doesn&#8217;t sell. Blah, blah, blah. If you chase fads you&#8217;re going to get burned. You got to do what you love.<br />
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I started with Grenache. I got a contract suddenly. Somebody had just backed out of half a block and I had three hours to decide. There were a lot of people lined up to buy the fruit. But I had to take all of it. So I said I&#8217;d call my wife. I hung up the phone and literally hit redial. I knew my wife wasn&#8217;t going to like this! She was going to think it was a really bad idea. So I bought every last drop of it! Sign me up for the three acres. That&#8217;s what started it off. I knew it was a great site. When you know you&#8217;re getting this fantastic 14th leaf fruit of Grenache that people would fight over if they knew it was for sale, you can&#8217;t say no.<br />
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I just don&#8217;t want to mess it up, the wine. And there&#8217;s a lot of messing up here: like too much oak, like tartaric acid, like water&#8230; And then you get into the big boys and it just goes exponential from there. You start talking about RO, taking alcohol out, all those things that fool you. Super ripe and tons of acid, yet low alcohol&#8230; what the fuck is going on? Again, it&#8217;s about finding the right sites. Right now I have about 24 tons of Grenache under contract. I only use maybe twelve. I sell the fruit off for the same price I pay for it because I don&#8217;t want to piss off the growers. But I know that as were moving forward and things change, I want to have access to all the older vine Grenache so I can really work with it. Syrah is now very plentiful. So I don&#8217;t really worry about it. It&#8217;s easy and it&#8217;s fun to work with.<br />
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<em>How important is the appellation designation, Walla Walla?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Sean Boyd 2" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Sean-Boyd-2.jpg" title="Sean Boyd 2" rel="lightbox[4240]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Sean-Boyd-2-225x300.jpg" alt="" title="Sean Boyd 2" width="225" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4255" /></a><strong>SB</strong>  The winery is in Walla Walla. But for me it&#8217;s Washington State. I could care less if it&#8217;s Walla Walla. There are some incredible wines and vines being grown in Washington State, and Oregon. I could care less if it&#8217;s Walla Walla AVA. I think that&#8217;s doing a wine a disservice. I think it&#8217;s cool to do single vineyard Syrahs out of here, but to predicated yourself in Walla Walla just for the label, just because we&#8217;re getting in the magazines, is just ridiculous. If you&#8217;re fruit is a Cab you&#8217;ve gotta be in Horse Heaven Hills, you gotta&#8217; be in Red Mountain, you know, super hot, really fun, floral, beautiful sites; it&#8217;s definitely not Walla Walla, for me. If you move into Merlot and Syrah, and some fantastic whites coming out of here, then it&#8217;s Walla Walla. For me the AVA does not matter. It&#8217;s the vineyard.<br />
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<em>So Walla Walla is still working out its identity.</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Absolutely. If you look at the vines I would say that half are between 7 and 14 years of age in the valley. There are some that are 35, like Windrow and Seven Hills East. The majority is young, with tons and tons of new plantings on the way. In France 35 years is still considered juvenile. We&#8217;re definitely trying to get our bearings, dial it in. It didn&#8217;t help that we had a huge frost in &#8216;04. But you can&#8217;t worry about it. You have to think of doing what&#8217;s best for the vines; not what&#8217;s going to burn into my profits. Right now we&#8217;re looking long-term. The only way you can be long-term in the wine industry is by putting out a quality product. If you don&#8217;t, then you might as well go do something else.<br />
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<em>Tell me something of the water rights issues here. I&#8217;ve heard a lot about the &#8216;use it or lose it&#8217; model.</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Yes. If you don&#8217;t use it then you lose it after five years.<br />
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<em>So it has to average out to whatever inches you&#8217;re initially allocated, or, if you&#8217;ve gone from fruit trees to grapes, for example, whatever has been grandfathered in.</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Correct. A lot of people donate it back. If you put in a drip irrigation system you&#8217;re never going to need that type of water you need for growing trees, like the old apple and cherry farmers who would do overhead irrigation. I bought a small piece, ripped out all the trees, and we were going to irrigation. The government was going to give us money because of the water savings. That meant we had to donate water back to the river, but yet we got money back for that. They were very excited about it. They paid for all the main lines, the pipe, there were discounts on the pump, all these fantastic things where you&#8217;re getting, even as a first time farmer, 75% of the cost of your drip system, materials and installation. That&#8217;s fantastic. You&#8217;re helping the water table by using less. You have to use drip irrigation. Hopefully you find spots that can grow grapes without using it. But you can&#8217;t really do that in the juvenile stage of a vine&#8217;s life. You have to be very careful.<br />
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If I had endless amounts of money I would say that for the first 6 years not to take a crop off of a vine. Just get it up, grow some wood, give it what it wants but not take anything from it. And then roll into it. But economics being what they are, the 4th year you can start to make rosé out of it. Hopefully you&#8217;re in a spot where you&#8217;ve thought far enough ahead that you&#8217;re, down the line, not necessarily needing to water. Hopefully they&#8217;re big enough, the vines are strong enough. If they&#8217;re tree trunks after a few years, then you know damn well that it&#8217;s a fantastic place to grow that varietal. The can withstand a hell of a lot more if their 5 and 6 inches in diameter than they can when they&#8217;re one inch in diameter.<br />
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<em>On a personal note, how does your wife feel about your new calling?</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  She&#8217;s from New Jersey. So, every time we come onto the other side of the mountain she says to me, &#8220;What the hell are we doing over here?&#8221; But then we get to Walla Walla and it&#8217;s ok. She&#8217;s also a school psyche. We&#8217;ve got the prison, and one step beneath that we&#8217;ve got the wineries and the service industries. It&#8217;s a small community and there are issues in it you don&#8217;t find in Seattle where they sweep in under the rug and move to south Tacoma. But here it&#8217;s a small community. You get all walks of life.<br />
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<em>So a lot of the fruit here is hand-picked.</em><br />
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<strong>SB</strong>  Absolutely. Talk about work. They guys who pick the fruit are unbelievable. It&#8217;s amazing when you walk out there and try and do a bin or two yourself. It&#8217;s really impressive. I won&#8217;t even pretend that I could do that work. We&#8217;re janitors. Those guys are laborers. They get paid pretty well, which is good; but it&#8217;s only seasonal. We&#8217;ve definitely seen the crunch with all the immigration bull shit. People want to work. And they&#8217;re willing to do it. You need to give them a shot. It&#8217;s how America was founded. The tough move up. Hard work is supposed to count for something.<br />
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<em>Great guy, great wines.  He left for France today, I believe. A pity the blogging folks could not meet him. But his wines may be found around town, especially in the tasting room. Again, I strongly recommend his work.</em><br />
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		<title>David Stephenson Introduces The Walla Walla AVA</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A curious thing happened on the way to Milton-Freewater, Oregon, a small agricultural town a few miles south of Walla Walla, and home to the vineyard of winemaker David Stephenson, just across the road from Cayeuse. What was to have been a vineyard tour first passed through Mr. Stephenson&#8217;s remarkable introduction to Walla Walla&#8217;s wine [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="lightbox"  title ="David Stephenson Cellars" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/David-Stephenson-Cellars.jpg" title="David Stephenson Cellars" rel="lightbox[4217]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/David-Stephenson-Cellars-300x164.jpg" alt="" title="David Stephenson Cellars" width="300" height="164" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4219" /></a>A curious thing happened on the way to Milton-Freewater, Oregon, a small agricultural town a few miles south of Walla Walla, and home to the vineyard of winemaker David Stephenson, just across the road from <a href="http://www.cayusevineyards.com/static/" title="Cayeuse"><strong>Cayeuse</strong></a>. What was to have been a vineyard tour first passed through Mr. Stephenson&#8217;s remarkable introduction to Walla Walla&#8217;s wine growing past, present, and ambitions. I shall be doing a second post on the vineyard portion of my visit as well as the stop at <a href="http://stephensoncellars.com/" title=Stephenson Cellars"><strong>Stephenson Cellars</strong></a> itself.  But, for now I felt it would be particularly helpful for fellow wine writers and bloggers here for the Wine Bloggers Conference to be brought up to speed via his spirited account of the AVA.<br />
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Mr. Stephenson produces round 1,000 cases a year. He is also a consultant, helping with site location, variety selection, bonding paperwork, fruit contracts, the whole deal. As he has said, <strong>&#8220;In two years I can take anyone from zero to winery&#8221;</strong>.  His knowledge of the local scene makes him an invaluable source of information for visiting bloggers. Indeed, though he is not, sadly, currently on the list of wineries the bloggers are scheduled to visit, I strongly recommend they make their way down to his tasting room at 15 South Spokane St. here in Walla Walla, just minutes from the Marcus Whitman Hotel.<br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong>  <em>I&#8217;ve heard repeatedly about cooperation among winemakers here in Walla Walla. You&#8217;re view?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="David Stephenson" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/David-Stephenson.jpg" title="David Stephenson" rel="lightbox[4217]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/David-Stephenson-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="David Stephenson" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4220" /></a><strong>David Stephenson</strong>  There is a unique level of cooperation here in Walla Walla. It&#8217;s a small town. We all know each other. We have to eat at the same restaurants and stare at each other. We tend to get along. But it&#8217;s really about trying to lift everybody up at the same time, because if we have people who&#8217;ve driven six hours, or who come here from New York or Chicago, and they have a bad experience at any of the wineries, then that carries through for the rest of their visit. It kind of shadows the valley. So we all made a decision early on, the people who founded this place, the wine community, that it made a whole lot more sense to make sure everybody was successful. We&#8217;ll let the marketplace sort out your competitors. We&#8217;re not competing against each other. We&#8217;re competing against ourselves.<br />
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<em>What percentage of the local production goes outside of the Walla Walla AVA?</em><br />
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<strong>DS</strong>  As far as the fruit&#8230; that&#8217;s a tough question. I would say, this is a guess, about half. There are some relatively large wineries that have locks on some of the old, established vineyards here. Long-standing contracts. They understand that it probably helps to lift the quality of their wines buying our fruit. Basically, I would say that the percentage is high for wineries here in Walla Walla that source fruit outside of the AVA as well. One of the things we&#8217;ve learned in Washington, at least Eastern Washington, is that it&#8217;s a pretty unpredictable place weather-wise. So you need to hedge your bets, I believe. So if I&#8217;m exclusively one AVA, there is a chance that about every six years you&#8217;re going to freeze. And when you do, you don&#8217;t get any fruit. So you either raise your prices 20% to cover the loss, or you try and source fruit from outside the valley. A lot of folks just don&#8217;t want the headache of that. There is great fruit all over, so it makes sense to borrow from each other, if we can.<br />
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<em>So how does Walla Walla understand the distinctions between its terroirs and the terroirs of the Yakima Valley, or other locales?</em><br />
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<strong>DS</strong>  Oh, you know, that&#8217;s still an on-going discussion! Over the years I kind of go back and forth on the whole concept, wondering if it exists [terroir], because I have in my own vineyard sometimes as much difference from one end of the vineyard to the other as there is from one end of this valley to the other end. There&#8217;s just a lot of different micro-climates. It&#8217;s a pretty large, expansive area. And I think that anybody who comes to Eastern Washington is blown away by just how huge the wine growing areas are. I mean, they stretch to Idaho; they stretch up to the Canadian border; they stretch all the down to Bend, Oregon. So it&#8217;s just an enormous amount of real estate. That said, Walla Walla does seem to have a real lushness and warmth to the fruit that I think shows through. It&#8217;s not like any other place. That doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s worse or better. It&#8217;s just different. And I really enjoy working with the fruit from here.<br />
I&#8217;ve settled here. I&#8217;ve bought vineyard ground.<br />
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<em>And when was your first vintage?</em><br />
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<strong>DS</strong>  It was 2001, my first commercial release. I had worked for a lot of the bigger wineries for 3 or 4 years prior to that. I apprenticed with some really great guy that showed me a lot; showed me what <em>not</em> to do as well. I was real appreciative of that. I&#8217;ve been around for awhile compared to most of the valley, I guess.<br />
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<em>Yes. I noticed that there are two major wine books about Washington, including Walla Walla, of course. And even though they were published in 2008 they already seem to be seriously out of date.</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Wind Turbines Blue Mountains" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Wind-Turbines-Blue-Mountains.jpg" title="Wind Turbines Blue Mountains" rel="lightbox[4217]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Wind-Turbines-Blue-Mountains.jpg" alt="" title="Wind Turbines Blue Mountains" width="260" height="195" class="alignright size-full wp-image-4222" /></a><strong>DS</strong>  They are completely out of date. Our growth has been exponential. A lot of what is happening is, and there is a lot of romanticism that goes with this, but there are just a lot of people who&#8217;ve worked hard their whole lives, and they get to be about 50 or 55 and they wonder what do they want to do in their retirement years. They are productive people, professionals, successful in their fields, so they want something that&#8217;s challenging but at the same time enjoyable. So they come here. For as many baby boomers as there are, we talk about an aging population, that&#8217;s the demographic that really wants to start these wineries. They maybe spent their college years in Europe and haven&#8217;t been back, or they visited and want to have a piece of that enjoyment. I sometimes think there are more people who want to start wineries than there are people who want to buy wine.<br />
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<em>Is there any conflict between established wheat growers and the pursuit of new vineyard acreage? I&#8217;m thinking with respect to land prices.</em><br />
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<strong>DS</strong>  Initially there was. But it has really balanced out. What you see now is wheat farmers who often own vineyards. They are not foolish. They understand that if the land prices go up exponentially, and they&#8217;re sitting on 3,000 acres, if it goes up ten times that&#8217;s not exactly bad for them. It&#8217;s tough to farm. If you wanted to get into wheat farming, if that was your life&#8217;s goal, to do that without an existing farm would be pretty difficult. That&#8217;s just the way things are.<br />
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<em>But as far as taxes on land&#8230; that must be burdensome.</em><br />
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<strong>DS</strong>  Well, you know, farmers, we take care of ourselves. There are tax exemptions. You don&#8217;t pay the same as if you had an apartment building on your property. Oregon, especially, is very, very protective of their farming ground, their agricultural land. In fact, the vineyard we&#8217;re heading to now are in what is called an &#8216;exclusive farm use area&#8217;. I couldn&#8217;t build a home. If there is not already an existing home you&#8217;re not allowed to occupy any square foot of that land except for agriculture. You have to go with your hat in your hand and beg the planning department if you want to put up any sort of structure that would take any acreage out of production. In exchange for that you have dramatically reduced taxes. It really does work to keep it in agriculture.<br />
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<em>What about the erosion of your agricultural base? In California a farmer pulling down $50,000 a year might be approached by some real estate speculator who wants to build McMansions. He&#8217;s offered millions of dollars for his 100 acres. He&#8217;s 70. What&#8217;s he going to say? Of course he&#8217;ll take the money.</em><br />
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<strong>DS</strong>  We&#8217;ve seen some of that here, south of town, toward the slopes of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Mountains_(Oregon)" title="Blue Mountains"><strong>Blue Mountains</strong></a>. There was a lot of 10 acre zoning that were wheat farms; but that seems to have slowed down. People have realized that it&#8217;s much better to live in town if you want a to have a second of third home. You&#8217;ve got services. You&#8217;re not dealing with well failures, mowing, and agriculture all the way around you. It&#8217;s really no fun living in a dirt zone, unless you&#8217;re farming it. It&#8217;s not that romantic.<br />
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<em>So what about water rights? What percentage would you guess, of course, it has to do with locale, but what is the percentage of vineyards dry-farmed? And what are the irrigation protocols for many of the wineries?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Water" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Water.jpg" title="Water" rel="lightbox[4217]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Water-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Water" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4223" /></a><strong>DS</strong>  That&#8217;s a good question. Very few wineries or vineyards here are dry-farmed. This road we&#8217;re sitting on here is the road down into Oregon. Basically, the rule of thumb is that every mile that you go to the East you pick up an inch of rain. We&#8217;re at about 17, 18 inches. It&#8217;s almost like clockwork. As you go up the slopes you pick up more water. Basically, as you get this rising elevation, you tend to scrub a little bit more moisture out of the thunderstorms. The difficulty with this area is that we have an enormous amount of water. Walla Walla means &#8216;many waters&#8217;. We&#8217;ve got creeks and springs bubbling everywhere. The aquifers are good. It doesn&#8217;t mean that they&#8217;re not going down&#8211;but that&#8217;s not due to grape farming. Grape farming uses minimal amounts. The biggest issue that we have is that if you turn your apple orchard, or your cherry orchard, your irrigated fields over to grapes, you&#8217;re going to use a tiny percentage of the water that you used to. There is a kind of &#8216;use it, or lose it&#8217; rule. If you don&#8217;t use your 36 inches per year, you may well forfeit it. You can lose it forever.<br />
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<em>You lose it forever? So they determine your allocation by how much has been historically used? So your incentive is to use as much of your allocation as possible even though you&#8217;ve switched over to grapes?</em><br />
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<strong>DS</strong>  It&#8217;s a terrible system. My right is for 36 inches per year. So you&#8217;ll see out here cow pasture where people have a pump going year-round. They just flood-irrigate the field. They just have it running because if they don&#8217;t use it up, they&#8217;re going to lose it. We all know that in the future that water will be gold. None of this happen without water. Land doesn&#8217;t have any value here if you don&#8217;t have an irrigation source for it.<br />
We don&#8217;t get any rain from basically this point until the end of September, sometimes into October, we&#8217;re not going to get an inch of rain. So, unlike France, or other places that dry farm, we get our 18, 20, 22 inches, but it&#8217;s all in the Wintertime. We&#8217;re in a little bit different situation. We desperately need to irrigate.<br />
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<em>Speaking of France, when a winemaker first starts out here who do they turn to? To what nation&#8217;s winemaking traditions do they model their winemaking?  I&#8217;ve noticed a certain use of oak, shall we say.</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Stephenson line-up" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Stephenson-line-up.jpg" title="Stephenson line-up" rel="lightbox[4217]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Stephenson-line-up-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Stephenson line-up" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4225" /></a><strong>DS</strong>  I would say Rhone is closer. We have a very hot climate. You wouldn&#8217;t know it now because it&#8217;s  temperate, but we&#8217;re usually scorching in the 90s right now; that&#8217;ll go to a 100, sometimes 110 in the Summertime. Tempranillo is here as well. But it was Cabernet, Merlot, Chardonnay, that&#8217;s sort of made in more of a California style. Some want to go to the oak. You want bigger, bigger, bigger, because that is, quite frankly, what your customers want. If you want big scores, you go with lots of oak and heavily extracted fruit. But at some point, you kind of settle down. You make the wines that you love to make. You gain confidence over time. I think you can then throttle back and start paying attention to subtleties. But initially, if you look around, you&#8217;ll see that this stuff has not been planted to grapes for very long; I think 40 years is about the oldest vineyard here. Most of them are 10 years, 8 years. And so, with that you get this explosion of new, raw, big, bold, beautiful fruit. They&#8217;ve got an excess of carbohydrates. It&#8217;s fun while it lasts, but at some point we&#8217;re going to settle down here.<br />
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<em>Where do folks turn for their rootstock?</em><br />
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<strong>DS</strong>  There are a couple of nurseries. Washington is a little different because we grow on our own rootstocks, predominately. We&#8217;re not using any rootstock here. We don&#8217;t have phylloxera at this point. We are too bloody cold; too bloody hot. That we can plant vines ungrafted is another thing that I think gives Washington really unique wines. We&#8217;re not having to control for the effects of rootstocks. What you&#8217;re getting is kind of a pure blast of Cabernet, or whatever varietal you&#8217;ve cuttings of.<br />
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<em>Do you pay attention to clones?</em><br />
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<strong>DS</strong>  There is some attention. I would say that that research is a long ways away. We&#8217;re still trying to figure out what site grows fruit. We&#8217;re in our absolute infancy. We just haven&#8217;t been doing this for very long. and, again, if you look at how much space we have left in the Walla Walla Valley, it&#8217;s an enormous area.<br />
We have about 1800 acres under grape cultivation in the entire AVA. I will tell you that there is a new expansion we&#8217;re going to be right below [Seven Hills]. It will be about 2000 acres in size. That will double the acreage in the Walla Walla Valley AVA with that one planting alone. So, we&#8217;re kind of on the radar now. We&#8217;re starting to see a lot more outside money coming in.<br />
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<em>So, a new winemaker would essentially turn to a limited number of viticulturalists and siting experts in the area and be told what most are told. There is a model or a pattern.</em><br />
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<strong>DS</strong>  There is a pattern that gets you in the door. Then, after that, you begin sourcing from small, little independent farmers. And this the community of Milton-Freewater, very different from Walla Walla. This is the old time agriculture: cherries and apples and prunes. And now grapes as well. There are lots of little pocket vineyards in here that are fun to play with.<br />
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<em>Interesting. So there might be an apple grower here, for example, who might plant an acre of vines. Winemakers would then spot buy, as it were.</em><br />
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<strong>DS</strong>  Yes. Absolutely. And there are a lot of winemakers here who work with a farmer. They&#8217;ll go up to an orchardist with a 100 acres and ask for five acres to plant under a long-term contract. Then they&#8217;ll split the development costs. The farmer gets the &#8217;sure thing&#8217;. The winery owner has clear ideas of what he wants to see, what varieties&#8230; there&#8217;s a lot less risk for both of them.<br />
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<em>&#8212;As mentioned above, a second post on Mr. Stephenson&#8217;s vineyard itself will be forthcoming.&#8212;</em><br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Clos Troteligotte, Cahors&#8217; New Generation</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clos Troteligotte is an interesting property. Stylistically, it straddles the line between old and new Cahors, but is not part of a generational movement as such. It understands its future as one driven by an independence of spirit and a work ethic, the true patrimony of the South West. Clos Troteligotte builds upon this cultural [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clos Troteligotte is an interesting property. Stylistically, it straddles the line between old and new Cahors, but is not part of a generational movement as such. It understands its future as one driven by an independence of spirit and a work ethic, the true patrimony of the South West. Clos Troteligotte builds upon this cultural continuity with refreshing innovation, a new perspective. I&#8217;ll explain.<br />
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Traditional Cahors AOC winemaking is difficult to grasp. Its long history has been punctuated by environmental disasters, changing international fortunes, the rise of powerful, politically astute regional rivals, the emergence of America as a winemaking power, its rechristening, if not rebirth, in the 1970s, and, most recently, Argentina&#8217;s successful marketing of the Malbec grape under Cahors&#8217; very nose. Indeed, Cahors AOC identity today is an unsettled confluence of multiple histories and restarts. We can catch glimpses of the magnificence of the wines produced, more numerous examples in recent years, but I don&#8217;t believe the Cahors AOC has experienced sufficient continuity as a wine growing region for the rest of the world to clearly understand what it is she has done, certainly not what she now does. It was not until the 1990s, after all, that a thorough analysis of what Andrew Jefford has called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/New-France-Complete-Contemporary-Mitchell/dp/1845330005/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1275450755&#038;sr=8-1" title="The New France"><strong>the forgotten terroirs</strong></a> was even undertaken.<br />
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Now the Cahors AOC project becomes to expand and to deepen this new local knowledge of itself, of its terroirs and the best viticulture, for the sake of its growers, producers, and the thirsty public. For it remains true, as I was often reminded by locals themselves, that a substantial number of Cahors AOC vignerons still do not know the strengths and weaknesses of their own lands, whether their vineyards are in the right place, or where to look within the AOC at large for terroirs of great potential. This last point is important in that I strongly sense that others from outside the region are now shopping for AOC acreage. (I, myself, have more than once in the past few weeks wondered whether I might make a go of it here!) Of spectacular potential, this small AOC in the South West of France has only begun to shower the world with the soulful, expressive gifts of its terroirs. Like much of Portugal, I am convinced that the Cahors AOC is on the verge of far wider international recognition than now enjoyed. There is no downside to its fortunes.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Emmanuel Rybinski" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Emmanuel-Rybinski.jpg" title="Emmanuel Rybinski" rel="lightbox[4099]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Emmanuel-Rybinski-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Emmanuel Rybinski" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4103" /></a>Of Clos Troteligotte. Founded in 1987 by patriarch Christian Rybinski, it is a 10 hectare (1 of white grapes just coming in) family operation spearheaded by young son Emmanuel. They combine excellent red plateau soils, an appreciation of contemporary viticultural thinking, a relentless work ethic, internet savoir-faire, experimentation, and an abiding love of their patrimony into a range of bright wines, including a white and rosé. I had the pleasure of spending a couple of hours with Emmanuel. What follows is a blended narrative of the interview.<br />
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Troteligotte, Emmanuel explains, is the name of his grandfather&#8217;s house. It means a place where there are a lot of partridge (my effort to find an exact translation was unsuccessful). As we approached the property and drove a private dirt road through wooded land just east of the Villesèque commune, itself ten minutes west of Cahors off D653, sure enough partridge bolted in front of us. They did not fly, but ran. Emmanuel described his vineyard as atop the plateau, an iron-rich clay and limestone mix. Unobstructed sunshine is on the vines, the surrounding forest having been cleared for cereal grains and animal forage as well. Emmanuel&#8217;s father, Christian, though an agronomist, was an ingenue. He didn&#8217;t know a lot about wine when he initially planted the Clos Troteligotte&#8217;s vines in &#8216;87. His own father had been a farmer, had not known the vine. But Christian learned with each vintage and soon left the negociants behind with a focus on quality, a resolution made in 1998, the year of his first great effort.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Emmanuel's Work" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Emmanuels-Work.jpg" title="Emmanuel&#039;s Work" rel="lightbox[4099]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Emmanuels-Work-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Emmanuel&#039;s Work" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4100" /></a>In 2004 Emmanuel had returned from Australia. He had worked in <a href="http://www.victorianalpswinery.com.au/?id=ourstory" title="Victorian Alps"><strong>Victorian Alps Winery</strong></a>, near the Victorian Alps in the state of Victoria. He had also put put in time in Napa as an assistant winemaker at <a href="http://www.chateaupotelle.com/" title=Chateau Potelle"><strong>Chateau Potelle</strong></a> in 2002. So, back in Villesèque in 2004, he began to make his multiple signature cuvées. Shortly was to come, with the help of his father, their first <strong>C</strong>harte de <strong>Q</strong>ualité wine in 2004, the <a href="http://www.clostroteligotte.com/nos_vins" title="CQfd"><strong>CQfd</strong></a> [see pic].<br />
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Diversity of wines is the key to the Clos&#8217; success. Emmanuel has complete control over block, vine, and grape selection to do as he pleases. So why not explore the variety their current 40,000 bottle capacity allows? Eight thousand of Rosé, 4,000 of the white blend, Chardonnay, Sauvignon Blanc and Viognier, and the balance of classic Cahors blends, Malbec, Merlot, and Tannat. The white blend is quite interesting, the result of an experiment with the three varieties none of which were planted in sufficient quantities to warrant a separate bottling.  But next year he will plant more vines for two new whites, a Chardonnay and Sauvignon Blanc blend and a stand-alone Viognier.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="New website banner" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/New-website-banner.jpg" title="New website banner" rel="lightbox[4099]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/New-website-banner-160x43.jpg" alt="" title="New website banner" width="160" height="43" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-4101" /></a>Father and son do everything; they work the vineyards, the cellar, the barnyard, they do all the marketing, including hand-selling at markets, the labels. Control rests entirely in their hands. Their new <a href="http://www.clostroteligotte.com/" title="website"><strong>website</strong></a>, too, was Emmanuel&#8217;s doing, though with the help of a friend who runs <a href="http://www.eure-k.fr/" title="eure-k"><strong>eure-k!</strong></a>, a new innovative web design collective, in this instance charged with creating a site which reflected Emmanuel&#8217;s electric personality. It took six months, but the results are certainly more energizing and visually arresting than any other Cahors AOC producer sites I&#8217;ve visited on the net. They also do tee-shirts, fliers offering discounts, all that modern marketing stuff (like talking to me). Though not yet on Facebook or Twitter (it takes time he does not have!), he does have a <a href="http://blog.clostroteligotte.com/" title="blog"><strong>blog</strong></a> administered by his lovely wife, Emily. (Though not always a part of Emmanuel&#8217;s narrative, Emily is undeniably central to their success.) All of this raises his profile and that of the winery. From his work in Australia and California he learned the importance of wine tourism, something he hopes to increase to his property in the near future. Future plans call for the building of a new cellar for tastings and sales, educational talks; a showplace for local art, theater, music, and books; a comfortable place for cultural gatherings and conversation, what Emmanuel calls a Country or Rural Cultural Center. Under construction now, he hopes to open the doors in the Spring/Summer of 2012.<br />
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These kinds of initiatives, incidentally, are going on all over the Cahors AOC. Indeed, the local wine and tourism authorities have launched a five-year plan to completely revitalize the region. It is an exciting time to be a winemaker here! Yet Emmanuel&#8217;s advice may not be sought, at least in the beginning. Along with other young winemakers 30 and under, they have not yet earned the confidence of the older generation. For that distinction, a greater region recognition of one&#8217;s work is required.<br />
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Emmanuel is not particularly concerned with such matters. He really has no time to speak formally about the development of the appellation in any case. He has more than enough work to do, what with his winemaking, viticultural practice, marketing, house and out-building construction and family responsibilities. He is the father of three beautiful young children. Malbec Days, in fact, offered him an excellent opportunity to combine a number of tasks, including meeting local officials, exporters, wine writers, etc. all while pouring his wines.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Clos Troteligotte vineyards" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Clos-Troteligotte-vineyards.jpg" title="Clos Troteligotte vineyards" rel="lightbox[4099]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Clos-Troteligotte-vineyards-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Clos Troteligotte vineyards" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4106" /></a>We arrive at the vineyards, the house and future cellar under construction just beyond. His current cellar is simply too small for his ambitious plans. The vineyard is 9 hectares of Malbec and 1 of Merlot. The Merlot was put in his first cuvée, <a href="http://www.clostroteligotte.com/nos_vins" title="La Fourmi"><strong>La Fourmi</strong></a> and in his bag-in-a-box wine. But no Merlot is used for his middle and high cuvées. Those wines are 100% Malbec. I should add that the white grapes are not grown on the same soil as the red. In the main vineyard heavy iron-rich stones, some appearing 100% pure, lie scattered about the ground and lurk just beneath the surface. Years ago such stones were smelted to make iron farm and martial instruments. Were it to rain the soil would turn red before my eyes.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="CQfd-2006" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/CQfd-2006.jpg" title="CQfd-2006" rel="lightbox[4099]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/CQfd-2006-81x160.jpg" alt="" title="CQfd-2006" width="81" height="160" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-4109" /></a>Green harvest is the order of the day at the more progressive vineyards, as here. Emmanuel explains the maximum number of canes allowed, 4 to 5, along each cordon. Grape bunches are severely reduced to one per cane. Yields for the higher quality cuvées are around 30 hectoliters per hectare, the lowest yield is used for the CQfd. Contrast this to the easier drinking, less expensive La Fourmi, for which 45 to 50 hectoliters per hectare are harvested. As may be seen, grass and flowers are everywhere between the rows, but Clos Troteligotte is not yet biologique. La Lutte Raisonnée is practiced, essentially what we would call &#8217;sustainable&#8217;. In two to three years they will complete the transition to biologique, or &#8216;organic&#8217;. Under the raisonnée regime a very small amount of &#8216;product&#8217; is used, sulphur and copper, usually once a year. No insecticide is applied. But even this quantity, Emmanuel explains, has been reduced by half since 2000. As a result the vines have become more and more capable of resisting what diseases there are in this dry climate. During a typical growing season it is only the leaves, and not the grape bunches, which are occasionally attacked. Clean grapes help, of course, with the vinifications, all done with &#8216;wild&#8217; yeast.<br />
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Because it is just Emmanuel and his father, the grapes are mechanically harvested. Small select parcels are harvested first, when it is coldest, between 5 a.m. and 8 a.m. in the morning. The disease-free grape clusters, a feature of both climate and viticulture, do not really need hand harvesting. No post-harvest de-selecting is required. Besides, a hectare may be harvested in under two hours at an optimal temperature and have the grapes in the winery before the morning chill has fled. The whites, however, are hand harvested because of oxidative matters. Curiously, their vineyards are consistently ready for harvest a full week earlier than their closest neighbor, a vineyard property only one kilometer away. Perhaps it is the forest circling their lands that provide an extra bit of protection, perhaps a subtle microclimate subtends the difference.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Younger white grape vines" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Younger-white-grape-vines.jpg" title="Younger white grape vines" rel="lightbox[4099]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Younger-white-grape-vines-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Younger white grape vines" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4118" /></a>We leave the red soils of the Malbec/Merlot vineyard (with a small amount of Tannat, 2 to 3 percent) to view the white clay, chalkier soils for Clos Troteligotte&#8217;s whites. The vineyard bordered the forest, but in the past few years the trees have been cleared to make room for more vines to come, Chardonnay, Sauvignon Blanc, and Viognier, as mentioned above. The empty field is now planted with cereal grains while they prepare for the new vineyard.<br />
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I was next introduced to a small plantation of very young oaks, what they hope will become <a href="http://www.truffletrees.com/truffcult.html" title="truffle site"><strong>truffle trees</strong></a> in no fewer than 7 years. Asked about a vegetable garden, Emmanuel very proudly said they grew for the family. &#8220;We do everything!&#8221; They don&#8217;t use conventional paper diapers for their children. Instead, they use a <a href="http://www.thediaperhyena.com/hempdiapers.htm" title="hemp diapers"><strong>hemp fabric</strong></a>, and for their tee-shirts, not to mention for the insulation of their home. His uncle has 40 hectares of cereals under cultivation. Complete with a windmill and grinding stone, grains for the family and their chickens and pigs are produced there. The pig manure is, bien sûr, returned to the fields.  Like Emmanuel says, &#8220;We do everything!&#8221;<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Emmanuel and Emily" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Emmanuel-and-Emily.jpg" title="Emmanuel and Emily" rel="lightbox[4099]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Emmanuel-and-Emily-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Emmanuel and Emily" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4116" /></a>Heating of the family home, Emmanuel and Emily&#8217;s, is provided by a large stove. After firing it up for a couple of hours it provides heat all throughout the night, important when the temperature last winter plunged from an average of zero to minus 10. With the stove they bake their own bread. They harvest meats from their own livestock. Their family life and that of their farm supports and maintains long-standing Cahors country traditions. They remind me of rural folks living in Mendocino County or in western Montana. I couldn&#8217;t help thinking I had met these people before. I&#8217;m sure I have. And like their American counterparts, they are not making much money. Emmanuel laughs, <strong><em>&#8220;Not yet. Not yet. We work 7 days a week. We have one short holiday a year. Me and my wife. But I am on a good path. Next year I hope to take more time off&#8230; maybe pay someone to come with me into the vineyards. That would allow me to do something else.&#8221;</em></strong><br />
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I was welcomed at their family house. Emily brought out a bowl of strawberries. Their apple-cheeked children eyed me with amusement, dressed as I was in unseasonable, unreasonable black and sporting multiple electronic devices. A friendly old dog, perhaps a Bernese, went back to the shade. Emmanuel introduced me and soon had his eldest son practicing his English numbers aloud. Their youngest offered me a bottle of liquid soap and a bubble wand. The ice water infused with citron tasted good.<br />
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Though I was to spend another 45 minutes with Emmanuel touring the winery proper and other sites, and listening to his extraordinary visions that I am certain <em>will</em> be realized, I feel it is best to end my post here. I had seen, tasted and heard much in my week in the Cahors region. But no experience was quite so perfect, so personally fulfilling for this weary stranger than my few precious minutes here with the Rybinski family.<br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong><br />
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For further reading, a supplemental <a href="http://www.livewine.eu/reportages.php?rep=clos_troteligotte_cahors&#038;lang=eng" title="link"><strong>link</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>A Vineyard With Soul, Laurent Rigal&#8217;s Prieure De Cenac</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 12:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sometimes happens in life that you meet a person of such spiritual dedication that you think things differently, your world-view nudged in a new direction. Such was my encounter with Laurent Rigal, son of Franck Rigal, family winemakers for Château de Grezels and Prieuré de Cenac in Parnac, AOC Cahors. On the first night [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sometimes happens in life that you meet a person of such spiritual dedication that you think things differently, your world-view nudged in a new direction. Such was my encounter with Laurent Rigal, son of Franck Rigal, family winemakers for Château de Grezels and Prieuré de Cenac in Parnac, AOC Cahors. On the first night of Malbec Days here in Cahors, what was called the Pré-ouverture, a kind of sneak preview, I tasted only a small number of wines, a few of which immediately caught my attention, this despite the tremendous heat inside the venue (I was told air conditioning was too expensive to install, coming in at around €10,000). Of those wines, one stuck in my imagination, &#8216;La Vierge&#8217;, from the Prieuré de Cenac vineyard. By virtue of a personal meander appropriate to this region dominated, as it is, by the Lot River, and the generous assistance of Jean-Marie Sigaud, I was to meet father and son the following day.  A winemaker discussing their work often presents two faces, one public, a visage of commercial, more formal utterances, and the other, private, far rarer. I was fortunate to listen to the latter.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Laurent Rigal" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Laurent-Rigal.jpg" title="Laurent Rigal" rel="lightbox[4048]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Laurent-Rigal-225x300.jpg" alt="" title="Laurent Rigal" width="225" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4051" /></a>The vineyard for La Vierge is situated within 39 hectares of gently sloping hills high above the Lot River. At the top of the very highest hill is a special terroir in that it contains a 50% concentration of the most desirable soil admixture in AOC Cahors, clays, principally red, and 50% limestone. Iron, a red clay element, gives minerality and adds balance and complex aromas in the wine. The vineyard was planted on Laurent&#8217;s birthday 30 years ago, in 1979, from which the first harvest was taken in 1983. That was a very good year owing to the modest yield. The vineyard for La Vierge sees no chemicals and is all hand-picked. It is, most importantly for Laurent, biodynamic, his passion.<br />
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He began working this vineyard 7 years ago after finishing school in Bordeaux. There he learned the principles of terroir, biodynamics, the influence of the ocean on weather, and especially a respect for the land and its biodiversity. For it is biodiversity that informs the success of the grape harvest. And it is the responsibility of the winemaker to give back to the land what he takes away. All of these principles represented the broader change taking place in the entirety of the AOC.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="partial view La Vierge vineyard" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/partial-view-La-Vierge-vineyard.jpg" title="partial view La Vierge vineyard" rel="lightbox[4048]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/partial-view-La-Vierge-vineyard-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="partial view La Vierge vineyard" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4054" /></a>When purchased this vineyard was already planted to the vine, but owing to its great age it was replanted with new vines, so low had the yields become. (Currently around 8,000-10,000 bottles come from the site.) It was formerly owned by a monk. The monk grew a large variety of cereals and vegetables during and after the Second World War, as well as maintaining a vineyard. Many monks sustained the local appetites and economies during this difficult time all throughout France.<br />
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Of the vintages from Prieuré de Cenac, Laurent has been responsible for 6, from 2003 forward. Of the difference between his first vintage and most recent he explains:<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="La Vierge wine" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/La-Vierge-wine.jpg" title="La Vierge wine" rel="lightbox[4048]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/La-Vierge-wine-225x300.jpg" alt="" title="La Vierge wine" width="225" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4058" /></a><strong>Laurent Rigal</strong> <em>For the first vintage I was very excited. And very stressed! My father and grandfather  set very high quality standards I had to meet. My first vintage was very hard work. I tried to make it perfect. But I felt I worked for nothing because it was a passion that drove me. Then I worked every day from early morning to mid-night, as late as two in the morning. Now I work more efficiently because working too hard on the vine and wine brings a negativity to the wine. I give the whole process more liberty and approach the harvest and vinification with greater respect, letting it develop on its own. Before I was pumping-over <a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remontage_(vinification)" title="remontage"><strong>[remontage]</strong></a> 6 times a day; now I keep it at 2. It is better.</em><br />
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On the property there stands the monastery that, as Franck Rigal explains, the family hopes to renovate into a rooms for visitors, perhaps room enough for six. This he tells me as he drives our small car onto the steep slope to the vineyard hilltop. There is no road, but it is wide enough(!) Under brilliant sun, expansive sight lines in all directions above the broad and gentle slopes, we stop and I take in what they call mamelom, the &#8216;tit&#8217; of La Vierge. But there is more to this name than a mere description. For Le Vierge means &#8216;virgin&#8217;, and the monk had cleared a place of quiet contemplation in the trees just a stone&#8217;s throw away. A spiritual topography begins to come into focus.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Soil of La Vierge" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Soil-of-La-Vierge.jpg" title="Soil of La Vierge" rel="lightbox[4048]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Soil-of-La-Vierge-225x300.jpg" alt="" title="Soil of La Vierge" width="225" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4065" /></a><strong>Laurent Rigal</strong> <em>I will show you his place of quiet repose in a moment. But I want to say that here there is energy, a strong cosmic force and a telluric force. There is a concentration at La Vierge, and all around the statue is a reseau [network] that helps keep the vines in good health. There is another concentration of energy in the prieuré which serves the entire vineyard. This is very important for biodynamic viticulture because we use this energy to develop good health, to infuse the earth and the vine with life. The winemaker must learn to develop this force in the plant, the vine, and to so help reduce the quantity of chemicals.<br />
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We have three products in biodynamics: We use cow manure, and we prepare it according to <a href="http://www.biodynamics.com/catalog/gardening-for-life-thun" title="Maria Thun"><strong>Maria Thun</strong></a> &#8211; she is the person who developed biodynamie in France and Germany &#8211; we also produce mineral sprays for application on the vines. Two products are for developing the telluric force and one is to develop the cosmic force, to attract the light onto the vine. It is very important that you develop and focus the energy of the universe, the light. But this is rare. It is not easy to do.</em><br />
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So it is that the mamelom, the name of the hill, La Vierge, that of the vineyard, are descriptive elements of a kind of immaculate nursing (if I may put it that way) with the cosmos.<br />
We then, midst a riot of bird-song, walked down the mamelom to Laurent&#8217;s place of contemplation and one of the vineyard&#8217;s power points. It was here that I took the picture of Laurent and his father, Franck. The picture of Laurent above shows him sitting at the precise power site initially discovered by the monk.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Laurent and his father, Franck" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Laurent-and-his-father-Franck.jpg" title="Laurent and his father, Franck" rel="lightbox[4048]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Laurent-and-his-father-Franck-225x300.jpg" alt="" title="Laurent and his father, Franck" width="225" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4049" /></a><strong>Laurent Rigal</strong>  <em>I was up this morning at 3 o&#8217;clock preparing and spraying, according to the calendar, the constellations, preparations for this vineyard! So I am a little tired today. In biodynamics there are four days: A fruit day, a leaf day, a root day, and a seed day. Today was a fruit day.<br />
Here, at this quiet place, there is a concentration of telluric and cosmic force. Some people who visit this place feel this energy coursing through their fingers. And when you sit down, not to pray but to think, and if you are energy-friendly, then you may receive the energy.<br />
And of the wine made here, the aromas and the taste of La Vierge, you can say the moon and the sun are in harmony. The wine is the expression of this union. We will be bringing a horse and cow to the vineyard soon; they bring good astral properties. This is a very special terroir for biodynamie. You have iron and orange clay.<br />
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Next I will show you the cave of the prieuré, but just for you. It was built by the monk. I do not often talk about these things, but you have an ambience. I can see it in the eyes when people do not want to listen.</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="In the monk's cave" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/In-the-monks-cave.jpg" title="In the monk&#039;s cave" rel="lightbox[4048]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/In-the-monks-cave-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="In the monk&#039;s cave" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4062" /></a>In moments we are in the cave, the property&#8217;s second power point located beneath the main structure, the house to be renovated for guests in the fullness of time. Though I am a bit uncomfortable in doing so, I must stress that Laurent did give me permission to post the accompanying photo.<br />
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<strong>Laurent Rigal</strong> <em>This was built by the monk, and it is in the form of the cross of Christ. I put my biodynamic preparations down here to bring into them the energy of the cave and the cross. Here I make the two products, preparations, described by Maria Thun. This one I put on the earth for an energy of concentration and recuperation&#8230;. This is a special place for me.</em><br />
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We head back to Cahors, the bridge where Laurent still faced the balance of the day pouring his wines. I was again to see him in the evening when, now nearly sleep-walking, he poured wines into the night, still cheerful, composed, radiating a great inner peace. I shall treasure my time with the gentleman and his father, among the finest moments of my time in the Cahors region.<br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong></p>
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		<title>The Terroirs of Domaine Le Bout Du Lieu, Cahors AOC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admin, Ken Payton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the interests of economy here may be found a kind of hybrid narrative, a compilation of a series of voices, principally that of the young winemaker Lucien Dimani, the son of Arnaldo, and my editorial contribution. Direct quotes will, however, be properly attributed. The point of this exercise is to faithfully present the Domaine [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="lightbox"  title ="regional map" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/regional-map.jpg" title="regional map" rel="lightbox[4028]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/regional-map-300x201.jpg" alt="" title="regional map" width="300" height="201" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4045" /></a>In the interests of economy here may be found a kind of hybrid narrative, a compilation of a series of voices, principally that of the young winemaker Lucien Dimani, the son of Arnaldo, and my editorial contribution. Direct quotes will, however, be properly attributed. The point of this exercise is to faithfully present the <a href="http://www.domaineleboutdulieu.com/indexuk.html" title="Dom. Le Bout du Lieu"><strong>Domaine Le Bout du Lieu</strong></a>&#8217;s precise understanding of their terroirs within the broader Cahors AOC. As underlined in a <a href="http://reignofterroir.com/2010/05/18/the-terroirs-of-cahors-a-brief-primer/" title="terroirs of Cahors"><strong>previous post</strong></a>, the Cahors AOC is kaleidoscopic, an assemblage of shifting elements only informed, not defined, by the proximity to the profoundly ox-bowed Lot river, vineyard orientation and canopy management, elevation, soil type, northern or southern exposure, blending percentages &#8211; if done- of Malbec (70% minimum in any case), of Merlot and Tannat, the blind luck of microclimate variations during the growing season, the skill of the vigneron and, it must be said, politics. What adds to the complexity is that all these elements are intertwined in such a way as to render nearly impossible durable regional harvest predictions or even the success of any given grower. To be a winegrower in the Cahors AOC is to daily roll the dice. <em>Terroir</em> has no ornamental value here. Rather, it not only frames the conversation, but it has the last word.<br />
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<strong>Preliminaries</strong><br />
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From Cahors to Saint-Vincent-Rive-d&#8217;Olt is about 13 miles due west; not far, but the winding road adds time. The village has a population of 183, and less than 400 including the surrounding villages of Douelle, Parnac and Luzech. All along the road may be seen vineyards, many in the yards of private residences. The first village we passed through was Douelle which translates as &#8217;stave&#8217;, as in the stave of a barrel.<br />
Many, many years ago this was home to a number of cooperages producing barrels for the regions&#8217; winemakers. Nowadays there are none remaining in the Lot region. They went out of business because larger cooperages outside the region offered better prices, and the barrels were made of a different kind of oak than the one locally grown. Different flavors came from oak from other areas. Local oak was a bit &#8216;green&#8217;. Political tensions within the Lot followed upon the choice by regional winemakers for barrels from outside the local economy. But that was 70 years ago.<br />
Concrete tanks became rather more popular for the small to average sized winery because of the differences in the time and labor required for racking. Spent barrels would continue to be used owing to their greater micro-oxygenation proficiency, but imagine one tank verses fifty barrels: racking one tank takes two hours; racking fifty barrels takes two days.<br />
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Upon entering Luzech, past a small, well-stocked open market, we drove up a hill to a magnificent vista. It was from there that one could easily observe the alluvial to terrace, hillside to plateau terroirs, and specifically nearly all of the holdings of Le Bout du Lieu, a small part of which are on the first terrace; their larger vineyards are found on the second and third. (To clearly photograph them from the vista is another matter! A layer of fog played havoc.)<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Luzech and its ox-bow" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Luzech-and-its-ox-bow.jpg" title="Luzech and its ox-bow" rel="lightbox[4028]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Luzech-and-its-ox-bow-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Luzech and its ox-bow" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4029" /></a>A bit about Luzech situated on what was once an island in an extreme meander of the Lot river. Years ago, before the building of dams and other water control structures, this particular stretch of the Lot was quite wild and treacherous, a tumult of powerful currents. Those traveling by boat, merchants in the main, would begin at the foot of the village and by the end of the day would have only traveled the length of the ox-bow, again arriving at Luzech at night. What took one minute to walk, was a challenging one day journey by barge. Indeed, many sailors lost their lives, so many that a little commemorative chapel was built at the end of the &#8216;island&#8217; opposite Luzech. Now, the river&#8217;s flow is regulated by dams, land loss by canals, the flood events, too, are therefrom diminished.<br />
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Incidentally, from the vista point it is estimated that 15% of the total acreage under vine cultivation in the whole of the Cahors AOC may be seen. It is obvious that this AOC ought to be one of the premier wine touring destinations in all of Europe. Plans are underway to more aggressively promote exactly this. Just 50 years ago a larger percentage of the land was dedicated to a wide range of agricultural activity. Farms formerly dominated the region. Vegetables, corn, wheat, walnuts, fruits, pig, cow and sheep husbandry were the mainstays of the local economy. The vine now plays a far greater role.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Explanatory tile" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Explanatory-tile.jpg" title="Explanatory tile" rel="lightbox[4028]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Explanatory-tile-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Explanatory tile" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4030" /></a>Frosts remain a great threat. Even as recently as last week the cloudless night sky sent temperatures plummeting. No young shoot can take such thing. Historically, in 1956, a very late frost killed 99% of the young growth. Even with global warming frosts are a perpetual danger. Interestingly, owing to the scattered distribution of vineyards and the attendant micro-climates, damaging frosts and hails do not necessarily effect the region as a whole. Hail storms, for example, are very focussed. One vineyard may be destroyed while the neighbor&#8217;s is spared. In any event, the closer the river, the deeper the valley, so increases the risk.<br />
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With headwaters in the Pyrenees, the Lot is the greatest meandering river in all of France, with this area around Luzech having the most extreme loop. It is a tributary of the Garonne. The explanatory tile pictured above provides useful illustration.<br />
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<strong>The Terroirs</strong><br />
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First we visit their vineyard on an alluvial terrace. Limestone and the first hints of gravel may be seen. Some say this is not a good terroir to make quality wines. Lucien is not in agreement.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="first terrace vineyard" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/first-terrace-vineyard.jpg" title="first terrace vineyard" rel="lightbox[4028]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/first-terrace-vineyard-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="first terrace vineyard" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4032" /></a><strong>Lucien Dimani</strong>  <em>&#8220;As long as you work well, you control the crop and the yield, you shouldn&#8217;t have any problem. Of course, if you want to do 8 tons an acre then here it is possible. You are close to the river. But it is something you <strong><em>cannot</em></strong> do on the second or third terraces, never mind on the plateau. The yields decline naturally the higher you go. There will not be the same quality, but here you can produce something similar. I know this because of blind tastings. I am sure some people would not believe me I tell them the wine they are drinking is from the first terrace.<br />
These vines are from 28 to 30 years old. And this is high density for here. The number of vines in a vineyard depends where you are. If I compare it to Bordeaux it is a low density. So let&#8217;s say it is from average to high density, closer to high. There is an AOC recommended ratio, a minimum density of a vineyard, about 3000 vines per hectare. Here we have about 4500 vines per hectare. We have good results from this vineyard as long as we manage the crop and the fruit is not clustered too close together.<br />
Trellising remains the same in all our vineyards, the same kind of canopy management. The only thing we change is sometimes the vigor management, but this bears primarily on the age of the vine and not the soil; and what wine we plan to make of these grapes. We&#8217;ll drop clusters to concentrate the flavors in the remaining grape clusters.<br />
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A lot of people are organic here, but do not always pursue certification. We have a lot of new converts as well. It has become more common. Of diseases, we have mildew and odium; but we can control them. We don&#8217;t have too much pressure. It depends on the vintage. But normally it is not something that is hard to control as long as you do your job in the vineyard. If we have to spray, we spray. If it is dry there is no reason to spray. <a href="http://www.inra.fr/opie-insectes/luttebio.htm" title="link"><strong>Lutte raisonnée</strong></a>.<br />
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My father [Arnoldo] is the vineyard manager. He started working in the vineyard with his father when he was 6 years old. I, too, started working when I was 6 or 7, to help. A long time ago it was school <strong><em>and</em></strong> work. Now, everywhere in France there is the problem of the next generation of winegrowers. And it is even more difficult these days to find people willing to work at harvest. It&#8217;s easier in Bordeaux, but it is starting to become harder every year for hand-picking. So, 90% of the harvest is by machine, machines shared among neighbors. Here there are four properties and us. We share the harvesting machine. If tomorrow there were a law that we had to do everything by hand, no one would do it. And hand-picking is a huge cost.&#8221;</em><br />
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We next travelled to a second terrace vineyard.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="second terrace" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/second-terrace.jpg" title="second terrace" rel="lightbox[4028]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/second-terrace-225x300.jpg" alt="" title="second terrace" width="225" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4034" /></a><strong>Lucien Dimani</strong>  <em>&#8220;Here there is more gravel. This is also alluvial but with gravel. Even higher up will be found more gravel. We went a bit higher in elevation to another terroir. The root stock here is SO4. This is the oldest vineyard that we have. It is a vineyard we bought that my father took care of for 20 years. He did not plant it. He first rented it. Another, younger block is beyond the trees. This vineyard is a second terroir. There is a bigger difference between red clay and alluvial soils than between graveled and alluvial-graveled soils. Again, in blind tastings it is confusing. But if you have red clay it cannot be mistaken. Nearer the river the soils are also deeper. And the vine depth varies. Here the vines are about 8 to 10 meters down. It also depends on the vineyard density. The lower the density the roots tend to grow more horizontally.&#8221;</em><br />
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Then comes a higher vineyard yet, their third terroir.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="third terrace" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/third-terrace1.jpg" title="third terrace" rel="lightbox[4028]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/third-terrace1-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="third terrace" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4038" /></a><strong>Lucien Dimani</strong> <em>&#8220;Vineyard orientation catches the maximum sun. When we do the leaf removal for air circulation and exposure we do it only on the rising sun side. Otherwise the sun will burn the fruit. Later, mid-August, when the sun is not so intense, we do the other side, but only on special plots. We only remove the leaf on the fruit; not above or below. The idea is to limit the humidity in the bunches themselves. Botrytis likes humidity. By select leaf pull we limit it. And we do de-budding when we prune. But we also do a green harvest later in the year if we have too many bunches that might become a source of disease. The fruit cluster, how tightly packed, depends on the clone. Of course, without irrigation a higher crop means lower concentration and lower quality. There is a balance between the crop and the quality. But there are limits above which the quality is not necessarily enhanced by lower yields. You may have 2 tons an acre, but if you lower the crop to 1.5 tons an acre you will find the quality will be the same in a vineyard harvesting at 2 tons. You will have lost half a ton per acre for nothing. You will have worked for nothing. It is about balance. Here in this vineyard the harvest is around 2.3 tons per acre.<br />
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This vineyard, the third terroir, sits on a small plateau. It is not strictly speaking a plateau; but we call it such because it is a flat spot on the top of a hill. The red clay is very visible. You saw the digging coming up. The surface is lighter, but if you dig it is red. The vine are between 30 and 35 years old.&#8221;</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="The Dimani Family" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/The-Dimani-Family.jpg" title="The Dimani Family" rel="lightbox[4028]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/The-Dimani-Family-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="The Dimani Family" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4040" /></a>The significance of the respective soils, the terroirs overall, on the resulting wine will be explicated in a later post. For now we drove to the winery itself where I was to meet the formidable Arnaldo and his wife Monique, equal partners in all the winemaking labors. They had prepared a deep tasting of vintages and bottlings from respective terrace terroirs. A full account of this part of the visit will be written at a later date. Suffice to say for now that their hospitality and generosity was very well regarded by this traveler. I thank them. To their son, Lucien, rugby player, my narrator and teacher, and to his lovely American friend, Eileen, I, too, offer my humblest thanks for the nearly three hours they sacrificed for me.<br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong></p>
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		<title>The Terroirs Of Cahors, A Brief Primer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 08:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Admin, Ken Payton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A city and its people offer to the traveler the opportunity to learn as much or as little as they wish. However, for the wine writer there is much less latitude. Cahors is a demanding AOC. There can be little true understanding without the writer&#8217;s submersion into its dizzying terroirs. As noted in an earlier [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A city and its people offer to the traveler the opportunity to learn as much or as little as they wish. However, for the wine writer there is much less latitude. Cahors is a demanding AOC. There can be little true understanding without the writer&#8217;s submersion into its dizzying terroirs. As noted in an <a href="http://reignofterroir.com/2010/03/17/the-malbec-of-cahors-vive-la-difference/" title="Viva la difference"><strong>earlier post</strong></a>, the wines of Cahors have long been welcomed at my table. Yet choice of her wines in America has long been seriously limited. So it was that I attended a Cahors tasting in San Francisco and was spiritually transported by the rich variety. Yet even then, despite my many conversations with the patient producers attending, I could not begin to guess at the terroirs expressed, the real source of the differences. Now that I am in Cahors for the <a href="http://www.cahorsmalbec.com/" title="Malbec Days"><strong>Malbec Days</strong></a> festival, I can begin to get answers to the new questions the San Francisco tasting awakened in me. Little could I have guessed the extraordinary lesson waiting around the next turn.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Jean-Marie Sigaud" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Jean-Marie-Sigaud.jpg" title="Jean-Marie Sigaud" rel="lightbox[4013]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Jean-Marie-Sigaud-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Jean-Marie Sigaud" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4021" /></a>Wandering the streets of old Cahors in a jet-lagged fog early Monday morning, I saw a sign pointing to the Maison du Vins de Cahors. Just across from the train station, I walked in, barged in, if you like, and began to explore the sober working space. I was directed to the main office where I was introduced to the remarkable Jean-Marie Sigaud, President of the <a href="http://www.vindecahors.fr/" title="UIVC"><strong>Union Interprofessionelle du Vin de Cahors</strong></a> (UIVC). With the assistance translating offered by Juliette and Maxim, I enjoyed a conversation that essentially threw me into the deep end of the pool, no more so than when I was introduced to The Map, the graphic depiction of the terroirs of Cahors. The work product of many days and hands by the Geographic Institute of the University of Toulouse, The Map, pictured below, is the non-plus-ultra of a terroirist&#8217;s education.<br />
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I shall leave the explication of its complexities for a later post. But I will say that there are 9 different terroirs classified. From the four alluvial zones, also known as the terraces, to the two different types of limestone covered slopes, up to the plateau, itself of three soil varieties. Even a cursory glance at The Map below reveals the enormous combinations afforded the winemaker, all given by the Lot&#8217;s graceful meander. Much more to come&#8230;<br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong>  <em>Just how many producers are expected for the event?</em><br />
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<strong>Jean-Marie Sigaud</strong>  We expect around 400 producers.<br />
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<em>And of those producers, will small ones be present as well?</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  Not all of them. Those producing under 500 hectoliters will not be present. There are about 150 producers in the AOC making below that amount.<br />
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<em>And where are Cahors wines sold?</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  You have three different markets: Export, around 20%; supermarkets make up 60%; 20% direct including tasting rooms, to tourists who come directly to the Domaine, private sellers, open markets, salons in different cities&#8230;<br />
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<em>Why is it so difficult to find Cahors&#8217; wines in America?</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  (laughs) Until 4 or 5 years ago production and consumption were balanced in the local market. Now, it is that the French drink less, not only of Cahors wine but of all wines. French people are drinking less wine. So we decided to go and begin greater exports the the United States and China.<br />
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<em>Has there been any negative feedback from the use of the word &#8216;Malbec&#8217;? Traditionally the grape was called Côt or Auxerrois regionally. Some traditionalists, even in the US, think that this may be principally for marketing purposes.</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  There are three names. Auxerrois used to be the most used name of the grape. Traditionally it was Auxerrois. And technically it is called Côt, but more generally it is now called Malbec. So if you go to Bordeaux we will talk about Malbec because they don&#8217;t know the word &#8216;Auxerrois&#8217;. They don&#8217;t know what it is. We use the word Malbec because it is more internationally known. Auxerrois is only known here.<br />
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<em>Those of us who love Cahors wines get a little bit worried that the closer one steps toward the general name most closely associated with Argentina, maybe the closer will become the winemaking techniques. We worry that the wines of Cahors will get softer, easier to drink when young. We like the purity of the Cahors expression.</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  The Malbec of Cahors will always reflect the difference of terroir. It will never be like the Argentine. Here we have enough rain. In Argentina they have to irrigate. We have six different terroirs in the Cahors appellation. You therefore have differences in quality.<br />
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You have the river, the first terrace, second and third. Each time you go into a deep bend in the river then you have this configuration. But you don&#8217;t have this configuration on both sides. Each time  the river bends you will have a cliff on one side of the river and you will have terracing on the other.<br />
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<em>Well, that is very helpful!</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="The map of Cahors' terroirs" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/The-map-of-Cahors-terroirs.jpg" title="The map of Cahors&#039; terroirs" rel="lightbox[4013]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/The-map-of-Cahors-terroirs-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="The map of Cahors&#039; terroirs" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4019" /></a><strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  The best terroir is the third terrace and the plateau, between 200 and 300 meters high. The river itself is 120 meters above sea level. Would you like to know the nature of the terroir? Where the river flows you have this rich alluvial soil, a flood plain. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s not very good for the Cahors vines; it is too rich. And you have the terraces which are the slopes of exposed earth over time. So, you have on one side of the river a cliff and plateau; on the other, the hillside slopes, the terraces exposed by erosion, all of which are of a different soil type and composition. In addition you have the North and the South. The North receives less sun than the South, so the South is preferred.<br />
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And there is the plateau; it is of clay, red clay. There are two types, red and white. The best terroir is red clay. We have a press document, but you are here before it is ready! The AOC is 50 kilometers long; the river makes it longer! It is about 4 or 5 kilometers wide.<br />
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And that is what you came here for; to find the difference between Argentina and Cahors?<br />
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<em>Yes and no. I want to deepen my readers&#8217; understanding of Cahors wines because Argentina is so much more present in the marketplace. I would like to move that in another direction, to get people to taste Cahors wines. People just don&#8217;t know Cahors. And I fear, which is to say, I know, that the Cahors style, its powerful terroir expression, and wines of similar strengths, are not well represented in America. I think Robert Parker, Coca Cola, fast food, and sweets have a lot to do with it. There are many who feel as I do. We&#8217;re looking for wines of greater finesse and character, terroir wines. We&#8217;re looking for difference. The wine of Cahors, certainly for me, and I think for others, is very much that wine.</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  Merci. The production of good Cahors wine is between 40 and 50 hectoliters per hectare. And the vine density is about 4,500 per hectare. About 80% is Malbec, 15% Merlot, and 5% Tannat.<br />
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<em>And the rootstock of the vines?</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  In the &#8217;70s the rootstock was <a href="http://www.winegrowers.info/rootstocks/SO4.htm" title="SO4"><strong>SO4</strong></a>, and in the &#8217;80s we had a lot of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitis_riparia" title="Riparia"><strong>Riparia</strong></a>, 3309 and 41B, with a little bit of Richter <em>[110]</em>. And since the year 2000 we&#8217;ve used <a href="http://www.winegrowers.info/rootstocks/Fercal.htm" title="Fercal"><strong>Fercal</strong></a> on the limestone soils of the plateau. Each producer had to take the good rootstock depending on where he was situated. It really depends on each parcel.<br />
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The harvest is around October 1st. And the harvesting degree will be between 12.5% to more than 14% of alcohol. Of course, you&#8217;ll have higher alcohol on the south side. Then you have the savoir-faire of the winemaker. The grapes will be mature, more or less, between the 1st and the 15th of October. Each producer has to decide when he wants to harvest. The more he waits, the greater the alcohol. In Cahors, despite the alcohol level, the biggest difference is the terroir in which the vines grow. Machine harvesting is done over 90% of the area with the best wines harvested by hand. Some of the producers even select individual grapes. At least one of them!<br />
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<em>Does the Merlot mature at the same time as the Malbec?</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  Tannat after, Merlot a little bit before; three passes through the vineyard. The rootstock has an influence on the ripening.<br />
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<em>I was then generously invited to lunch, but not before I laid eyes on an extraordinary map pictured above. The product of the Geographic Institute of the University of Toulouse, it is an extremely fine hand-painted representation of Cahors&#8217; diversity. It is clear to see, once the geological principles are grasped, that Cahors AOC wines have an infinite number of expressive possibilities.<br />
<a class="lightbox"  title ="Three Cahors wines" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Three-Cahors-wines.jpg" title="Three Cahors wines" rel="lightbox[4013]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Three-Cahors-wines-300x225.jpg" alt="" title="Three Cahors wines" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4017" /></a>And while at lunch Jean-Marie Sigaud selected three wines from the restaurant menu, each to show how these elements bear upon the black wine in the glass, in this instance the terraces to plateau. Each of the wines, grown very near one another as the crow flies , was from an increasingly high elevation: Chateau Gaudou, Chateau Nozières, and Clos Troteligotte respectively. Though all three were very good, it was the last, Clos Troteligotte, made by the Christian Rybinski, that possessed the greatest electricity and finesse. It is from a plateau terroir, and continues a family tradition.</em><br />
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The conversation continued over lunch:<br />
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<em>Do you enjoy your work as president of UIVC?</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  (laughs) It is a passion. The wine makes me crazy because it is such a passion, such a love for the wine. I don&#8217;t want to leave.<br />
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<em>Are you elected to your position?</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  I&#8217;ve been president for 23 years, elected by the winemakers. In 2013 I will likely be leaving my position. But I am really not sure.<br />
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<em>Well, it&#8217;s a very important time for Cahors wine. Surely they need a steady, experienced hand.</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  The most important thing is to meet a lot of winemakers because they all have a lot of differences between themselves. My politics is based on <em>difference</em>; it is difference that makes exemplary the culture of Cahors wine. Eighty percent of our winemakers are independent and 20% are in the cooperative. That is why we can have such different wines. One thing to remember is that when speaking to winemakers be sure to get your terroirs straight! (laughs) Especially for me.<br />
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Nowadays viticultural consultants speak only about the facts as they see them. To speak about terroir is not important to them. Nobody is interested in that! You are the first one to come here and ask to learn about our terroirs. (laughs)<br />
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<em>The world has gone crazy!</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  Yes! You can&#8217;t speak about wine if you can&#8217;t speak about terroir. For many a wine is only a cépage and not a terroir. But here there is a new trend. Producers in Cahors want to underline the point that terroir is very important. Until now it was considered only a second thing, not the most important. Now it is both a cépage <em>and</em> a terroir.<br />
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<em>Are négociants as interested in terroir here?</em><br />
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<strong>J-M Sigaud</strong>  Yes, completely. The négociant makes a selection of different wines considering their terroirs. And they put the individual terroir on the label of the bottle. It&#8217;s a part of their communication with the public. Here it is very important.<br />
A last word about these wines, [the ones we were drinking at lunch]. The basic principle is this: The further we leave the river, the better the terroir.<br />
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To make wine is a very personal thing. Each wine is like a portrait of a producer and his vineyard. The winemakers you want to meet here are those who while doing their job live for their passion.<br />
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Specific details of the multiple terroirs to come. But first I must enjoy my dessert.<br />
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		<title>Mondovino, The Series: A Viewer&#8217;s Guide</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonathan Nossiter&#8217;s Mondovino, The Series, is a revelation from beginning to end.  On four dvds, ten one-hour episodes, not only does it build upon themes pursued in the original 2004 theatrical release, but it substantially deepens them as well.  For those who have only seen the original, they will be greatly rewarded by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="lightbox"  title ="Mondovino, the complete series" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Mondovino-the-complete-series.jpg" title="Mondovino, the complete series" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Mondovino-the-complete-series-160x160.jpg" alt="" title="Mondovino, the complete series" width="160" height="160" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2465" /></a>Jonathan Nossiter&#8217;s Mondovino, The Series, is a revelation from beginning to end.  On four dvds, ten one-hour episodes, not only does it build upon themes pursued in the original 2004 theatrical release, but it substantially deepens them as well.  For those who have only seen the original, they will be greatly rewarded by viewing the enormous amount of material that had to be set aside to fashion a marketable film.  For those who come to Mondovino, The Series fresh, they are in for a hilarious, educational ride.<br />
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One of the most fascinating aspects of The Series is the sheer number of new insights uttered by all the original players.  I well remember the harsh criticism heaped on Mr. Nossiter for his alleged politically motivated edit, especially of remarks by Robert Parker and Michel Rolland.  Well, in The Series each gentleman greatly expand on their positions with respect to globalization, tradition and the use and abuse of history.  Threadbare do the protestations of a slanted edit become when throughout The Series Parker and Rolland insist on digging deeper holes.  But, one the other hand, they thereby become much more human, frail, seemingly caught in an echo chamber, a hall of mirrors of mutual admiration.  For here recounted is no ordinary love story.  Flaubert&#8217;s brilliant Bouvard et Pecuchét does come to mind.  Yes, let us not forget Mondovino, The Series is high comedy.<br />
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And there are many new characters:  Jan Shrem of Clos Pegase, Bill Harlan, Jose Espinoza, psychoanalyst Jean Laplanche of Chateau de Pommard, Catherine Montalbetti, editor of the Hachette Wine Guide, a very curious plastic surgeon from Paris, Dr. Eric Auclair, Steve Harvey of Folie à Deux, Pierre Siri, proprietor of the artisanal-class Iris du Gayou, Becky Wasserman, Charlie Rodriguez, José Mounier&#8230;  the list of new and interesting voices is vast.  Indeed, Mondovino, The Series swallows the theatrical release whole.  (Though there are a small number scenes in the original that did not make it into The Series.  But I&#8217;ll leave their identification to the film buff!)  Incidentally, the <a href="http://www.moma.org/visit/calendar/films/495" title="World Premier"><strong>world premier</strong></a> of this expanded film was in December, 2006, at the Museum of Modern Art in New York.  I have not been able to determine if that release differs significantly.<br />
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What I would like to do for the balance of this post is to provide a brief summary of each of the 10 chapters for the convenience of the viewer.  <em>(All images below are used with the generous permission of Jonathan Nossiter.)</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Aimé Guibert" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Aimé-Guibert.jpg"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Aimé-Guibert-160x115.jpg" alt="" title="Aimé Guibert" width="160" height="115" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2987" /></a><strong>1) Where&#8217;s Asterix? (or Little Town, Big Hell)</strong><br />
This first episode expands on broader themes most closely identified with the theatrical release, the global versus the local, narrowly drawn, the battle was between the town of Aniane in the Languedoc, pop. 2,300, and the Mondavis of California.  The conflict revolved around two nominally independent issues:  the preservation of a forest and the resistance to a global corporation.  But there is much ambiguity introduced into this new cinematic presentation.  Of course we are introduced to Aimé Guibert of Mas de Daumas Gassac, wine consultant Michel Rolland (I wonder if he still smokes?), Laurent Vaille of Domaine de La Grange des Pères, the Mondavis and their winery staff, Bernard Magrez, the former socialist mayor, André Ruiz and his elected replacement, the communist Manuel Diaz.  We meet Mr. and Mrs. Gay, the founders of Citizens for the Protection of the Forest.  Many new locals speak about the conflict, and we hear more from the clergy and from a very entertaining police officer most concerned with parking problems additional tourism might bring!<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Michel Rolland in his lab" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Michel-Rolland-in-his-lab.jpg" title="Michel Rolland in his lab" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Michel-Rolland-in-his-lab-160x93.jpg" alt="" title="Michel Rolland in his lab" width="160" height="93" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-2991" /></a>Interestingly, the more the &#8216;players&#8217; in this episode speak, the more nuanced do their positions become.  A viewer upon finishing this first chapter comes away with a far greater appreciation of the multiple <em>meanings</em>, as much personal and political, of the battle to save the forest.  There is as much bad faith as honesty, as much cowardice as courage.  No political position is as it seems.  It is in this discordance that comedy reigns surpreme.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Aubert de Villaine" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Aubert-de-Villaine.jpg" title="Aubert de Villaine" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Aubert-de-Villaine-160x125.jpg" alt="" title="Aubert de Villaine" width="160" height="125" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2993" /></a><strong>2) Magic Potion</strong><br />
Next we&#8217;re off to Burgundy.  In Volnay we meet Hubert de Montille, his wife Christiane, and their three children, Isabelle, Etienne and the sublime Alix.  Lighting up the screen is the magisterial Aubert de Villaine of the Domaine de la Romanée Conti (pictured).  Also in part two we are  first introduced to Jean-Charles Boisset, Director of the Boisset Group, and young Alix Montille&#8217;s employer at the time.  Jean-Charles Boisset will make numerous appearances throughout The Series, each more &#8216;revealing&#8217; than the last.  Of great amusement is Floris Lemstra, General Manager of Marketing for Boisset.  He awkwardly spies on Alix&#8217;s every exchanges with Mr. Nossiter while they are on the Boisset grounds.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Christiane de Montille" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Christiane-de-Montille.jpg" title="Christiane de Montille" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Christiane-de-Montille-160x106.jpg" alt="" title="Christiane de Montille" width="160" height="106" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-2996" /></a>Of the Montille children, truly remarkable new footage is included.  Our understanding of Alix and Etienne is improved, both fascinating people.  We follow a harvest with the workers grumbling over labor issues and the family&#8217;s response.  Greek and Libyan students on break from the University of London stir up trouble but are seemingly placated by a fabulous lunch prepared by Christine.  Great exchanges are enjoyed throughout!<br />
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Back to Napa where we are introduced to Chateau and Estate Wines (Diageo) employees Gregg Fowler, the head of Vineyard Operations, and Peter Hall, VP of Consumer Strategies (can you say Red Chardonnay?)  We close with a visit to Sterling, a subsidiary of Seagrams, a subsidiary of Diageo.  Much mayhem is set upon the world!  Here the noose tightens  another inch on the issue of globalization.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Thumb at Clos Pegase" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Thumb-at-Clos-Pegase.jpg" title="Thumb at Clos Pegase" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Thumb-at-Clos-Pegase-160x124.jpg" alt="" title="Thumb at Clos Pegase" width="160" height="124" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2998" /></a><strong>3) Rome Wasn&#8217;t Built in a Day</strong><br />
This third episode is the most revealing, weird and refreshing one-hour look the wine industry likely to be shot for a very long time.  Deserving of wide circulation, it is a virtually perfect series of contrasting personalities.  We meet the eccentric Jan Shrem of Clos Pegase, a comic figure of the first order, reflecting on art, the good life and the triumph of a kind of western aesthetic imperialism.  Throw in eerie footage of Bill Harlan haunting his own winery, opening and closing each and every door, briefly opening then drawing drapes in an apparent effort to contain or exclude some prowling malevolence; mix in the strangely remote Staglins, Sheri, Garen and their daughter, Shannon; add farm worker observations about working conditions and the absence of overtime with an explore of antiseptic environment of Opus One, all capped by a sunset barbeque with former farm worker, now winemaker, Luis Ochoa, his wife and neighbors outside their trailer/winery&#8230;.  This is the merest hint of the brilliant cross-cutting hilarity Mr. Nossiter assembles.  (I hasten to add that of all the dogs and cats we meet, it is in Luis Ochoa&#8217;s back forty where we see the one and only jack rabbit in the entire ten-hour series.)<br />
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There was one moment I found very affecting.  Owing to the fuller fleshing out of characters the longer series permits, we are given, per force, finer shadings of the Mondavi brood.  For reasons not entirely clear to me, when Michael Mondavi says, &#8220;I got my father back&#8221;, he relates a painful truth that was quite beautiful, at least to this viewer.  Margrit at Copia is equally touching.  Indeed, the Mondavi story, built fragment by filmic fragment through the ten-part series, will finally add up to a tour de force in its own right by the series&#8217; end.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Luis Ochoa" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Luis-Ochoa.jpg" title="Luis Ochoa" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Luis-Ochoa-160x118.jpg" alt="" title="Luis Ochoa" width="160" height="118" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-3002" /></a>There is much else that is commendable but I cannot resist mentioning Bill Harlan&#8217;s reply to Mr. Nossiter&#8217;s question, &#8220;Does Napa have an identity?&#8221;  Mr. Harlan replies, &#8220;To me the Napa Valley is kind of as it&#8217;s always been.  It&#8217;s been in transition of becoming what it will be in another 100 years.&#8221;  No post-modernist academic (or Stephen Colbert, for that matter) could have uttered a more confounding sentence.  A pitch-perfect summation of episode 3.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Pierre Siri of Iris" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Pierre-Siri-of-Iris.jpg" title="Pierre Siri of Iris" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Pierre-Siri-of-Iris-160x102.jpg" alt="" title="Pierre Siri of Iris" width="160" height="102" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-3004" /></a><strong>4) Pax Panoramix</strong><br />
We begin in Jurançon, Pyrenees at the Domaine de Souch where we meet Yvonne Hegoburu.  An exalted woman, she offers powerful insights into what growing grapes means.  As well as in Sardinia, Bosa specifically, where next we land.  Battista and Lina Colombu, again, express puzzlement at the increasing homogenization of wine globally.  This episode is particularly rich in contrasting opinion.  Neal Rosenthal hits back hard.  Michel Rolland blithely goes about his business.  There is more push back in Burgundy with wisdom from Hubert Montille and Aubert de Villaine.  Michael Broadbent joins in.  Patrick Leon of Chateau Mouton-Rothschild does not seem to know an artisanal-class winery&#8217;s vines are interplanted with his, those of  Domaine Iris du Gayou&#8217;s.  Pierre Siri, winemaker for Iris, is a shrewd addition to the film.  There is shown a fascinating meditation on the 1855 Bordeaux classification from multiple points of view.  Perhaps most delightful is an interview with Jean-Michel Cazes, owner of the 5th growth Lynch Bages.  He takes the filmmaker on a delightful tour of the bizarre architecture of prominent Bordeaux wineries.  &#8220;There is really no local architecture!&#8221;<br />
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<strong>5) The Appian Way</strong><br />
<a class="lightbox"  title ="Catherine Montalbetti, editor" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Catherine-Montalbetti-editor.jpg" title="Catherine Montalbetti, editor" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Catherine-Montalbetti-editor-160x111.jpg" alt="" title="Catherine Montalbetti, editor" width="160" height="111" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-3006" /></a>The viewer might be wondering what is left to prove generally about the globalization of a limited wine style having heard multiple voices either pointing to or demonstrating the affirmative.  And yet we are only four episodes into The Series.  Previously critics have laid the blame for the argument forcefully made in the theatrical version of Mondovino at Mr. Nossiter&#8217;s feet.  It was his selective editing that was to blame.  That argument can no longer be sustained.  And with episode 5 the beat goes on.  But a more aggressively drawn contrast begins to emerge.  Here is considered the influence of Robert Parker.  From Rolland to garagiste Jean-Luc Thunevin of Chateau Valandraud in St. Émilion, from a visit to Leo McCloskey of Enologix, the largest wine consulting firm in the US, to Parker himself, it is in this episode where the rubber meets the road.  I defy anyone to sit through Mr. Parker&#8217;s greatly expanded comments on his own influence, on pricing, terroir, his indifference to history and not come away astonished at his arrogance.  Michel Rolland, as well.  And a new, fresh voice is heard here, Catherine Montalbetti, the editor of the Hachette Wine Guide.  She speaks well of the standardization of taste.  And she goes on to say, &#8220;Because no way can you tell whether it comes from California, Chile, Bordeaux or Languedoc.&#8221;<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Charlotte Rampling" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Charlotte-Rampling.jpg" title="Charlotte Rampling" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Charlotte-Rampling-160x99.jpg" alt="" title="Charlotte Rampling" width="160" height="99" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-3010" /></a><strong>6) Quo Vademus?</strong><br />
What does an older bottle of wine taste like?  Neal Rosenthal laments the way prominent critics interfere with the cultivation of a tasting culture.  In a cross-cut Parker explains &#8220;As I get older, I like them younger.&#8221;  Jean-Luc Thunevin, much to the displeasure of his wife, says &#8220;Well, I say I don&#8217;t like old women.&#8221;  Quo vademus?  Where are we going?  This episode explores the &#8216;plastic surgery&#8217; of wine, especially the increasing use of new French oak.  Parker dwells on his liking of vanilla and toastiness, and considering its prevalence and that he likes wines younger, it is very amusing we are taken to the Paris office of plastic surgeon, Dr. Eric Auclair.  Back in Napa, Leo McCloskey, CEO of Enologix, notes the similarity of palates of Parker and the Wine Spectator.  Indeed, so closely have become the palates of leading critics that Enologix specifically works with wineries to predict what the critics will say!  Tom Matthews of the Wine Spectator is interviewed.  More from Burgundy.  Marketing has assumed a central role.  Among the Montille&#8217;s family, Etienne explains that the enemy is ignorance and standardization, over-simplification and money, of course.  Diversity, he insists, is the highest value.  It was a pleasure to see Becky Wasserman and Russell Hone make an appearance.  Yvonne Hegoburu, Aimé Guibert, Aubert de Villaine, and Michel Lafarge all join in discussing the matter of marketing.<br />
Tourists are caught plundering the grapes of Romanée Conti!  Aubert de Villaine&#8217;s reaction is priceless.  We close with a brief moments with the eternal Charlotte Rampling.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Laplanche of Chateau de Pommard" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Laplanche-of-Chateau-de-Pommard.jpg" title="Laplanche of Chateau de Pommard" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Laplanche-of-Chateau-de-Pommard-160x130.jpg" alt="" title="Laplanche of Chateau de Pommard" width="160" height="130" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-3013" /></a><strong>7) All Roads Lead to Rome</strong><br />
Episode 7 is framed by the question of authorship versus midwifery in the creation of a wine.  We begin in Paris at the Ministry of Finance.  Alain Châtelet of the Govt. Bureau on Wine Fraud leads us through the delicate question of consumer protection with respect to fraudulent wines.  Very difficult to prosecute owning to the reluctance of victims to step forward.  Great ego investment in wine.  And what can you say about a wine that is both pleasurable and a counterfeit?  Indeed, this entire episode could be called &#8220;the psychoanalysis of wine&#8221; for we next meet Jean Laplanche of Chateau de Pommard.  &#8220;I have a complex life, to tell the truth.  Did you know that?&#8221;, he asks.  Laplanche remains one of Jacques Lacan&#8217;s greatest students.  Author of a dozen books on various aspects of the Freudian oeuvre, Laplanche introduces us to what might be called the &#8217;strong&#8217; argument: that only the author&#8217;s signature on the bottle is the guarantee of quality and authenticity of the contents.  In stark contrast to his position are those of Montille and Villaine who hold that they are simply midwives.  In broadly psychoanalytic terms you have a repositioning of the question of the Father and the Mother.  (The consumer plays the role of child, constantly put on the spot to declare his unconditional love for one or the other.)  Great anxiety!  But what all gentlemen can agree upon is that for Robert Parker, as Laplanche puts it, &#8220;The complexity of Burgundy repulses him.&#8221;  This is, I believe, a brilliant insight.  There is a tremendous amount of important material here.  Why do consumers feel the need for the strong hand of wine gurus?  Why the anxiety over being cheated or of not knowing how to taste?  How is it that powerful marketing forces have come between the consumer and their palates?<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="J-C Boisset preparing to enter the barrel" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/J-C-Boisset-preparing-to-enter-the-barrel.jpg" title="J-C Boisset preparing to enter the barrel" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/J-C-Boisset-preparing-to-enter-the-barrel-152x160.jpg" alt="" title="J-C Boisset preparing to enter the barrel" width="152" height="160" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-3016" /></a>We next meet Scott Harvey, winemaker for Folie à Deux.  That winery was named after the founders&#8217; madness of the same name: the condition of two closely related people sharing the same delusional idea, in this case, of starting a winery.  But perhaps the most interesting moments of this episode belong to Jean-Charles Boisset, Director of the Boisett Group, #1 in Burgundy sales.  I shall not soon forget his unique method pf punching down the cap!  Or his plan to produce a limited edition of a super-blend of wines from diverse Boisset holdings, a wine with no origins, possessing neither Mother nor Father, neither terroir nor authorship.  The episode closes on a very painful recollection by Bernard Magrez.  It seems his father used to pin a very public sign on his back reading &#8216;I am a lazy boy&#8217; when he was a child.  As he says, &#8220;If you&#8217;ve lived through that it is much harder to love anyone&#8221;.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Marchese Lodovico Antinori" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Marchese-Lodovico-Antinori.jpg" title="Marchese Lodovico Antinori" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Marchese-Lodovico-Antinori-160x136.jpg" alt="" title="Marchese Lodovico Antinori" width="160" height="136" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-3017" /></a><strong> 8 ) Crossing the Rubicon</strong><br />
<strong>9) Et tu Brute&#8230;</strong><br />
Intrigue and regret in Italy.  Here is recounted, finished in episode 9, the story of the Antinoris and the Frescobaldis, both aristocratic families of great antiquity.  It is a grand tale of betrayal and familial discord, of false starts and of finding the courage to go on.  A deep history is on display.  Ornellia&#8217;s loss is recounted.  It is a particularly ugly aspect of contemporary wine culture that history counts for so little.  From Rolland to Parker, Boisset to Mondavi, there is simply no room for historical reflection in the pursuit of global markets.  Unless one may make a buck off of it.  But as The Series reveals again and again, whether it be Lafarge recounting German occupation of his family&#8217;s winery, Aubert de Villaine describing Burgundy&#8217;s religious patrimony, or Aimé Guibert railing against the erasure of cultural memory, real families, real histories are grinding forward.<br />
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Among the most bizarre and destructive of personalities on display is that of James Suckling. His casual child&#8217;s play with the meaning of the lives of others is both laughable and chilling.  I&#8217;ll say no more except that his comments are greatly expanded from those presented in the theatrical release of Mondovino.  Episodes 8 and 9 are truly a tour de force.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Mauro Tedesco and Isanette Bianchetti" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Mauro-Tedesco-and-Isanette-Bianchetti.jpg" title="Mauro Tedesco and Isanette Bianchetti" rel="lightbox[2985]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Mauro-Tedesco-and-Isanette-Bianchetti-160x90.jpg" alt="" title="Mauro Tedesco and Isanette Bianchetti" width="160" height="90" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-3020" /></a><strong>10) Veni, vidi, vendidi (I came, I saw, I sold)</strong><br />
In the final episode we may take a bit of a breather.  Introduced to Chile, Brazil and Argentina (and the film crew&#8217;s mysterious denial of entry into Paraguay) we meet many fresh faces, many new winemakers.  But we are also introduced to the persistent racism and class struggle that have blemished so much of the southern continent&#8217;s history.  Rolland&#8217;s shadow falls even here.  There is a strange, indeed, terribly tragic way in which the world of wine is repeatedly limited, boxed in, by the presence of so few authorities and consultants.  How strange to wander the back country of Argentina and still hear the names Parker, Rolland, the monotonous incantation of so few names.  But now, at the episode&#8217;s conclusion, we, too, have names, new names:  Charlie Rodriguez, Isanette Bianchetti and Mauro Tedesco, José Mounier&#8230;<br />
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I highly recommend Mondovino, The Series.<br />
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		<title>Coleman Nicole, A New Winery Is Born</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My good friend, and occasional contributor to this space, Brandon Miller, has taken the plunge:  His passion for wine, especially Pinot Noir, has gotten the better of him and he has decided to offer his own label, Coleman Nicole.  Brandon has been a prolific writer of tasting notes.  He has tasted wines [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="lightbox"  title ="brandon-miller-of-coleman-nicole" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/brandon-miller-of-coleman-nicole.jpg" title="brandon-miller-of-coleman-nicole" rel="lightbox[1813]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/brandon-miller-of-coleman-nicole-160x120.jpg" alt="" title="brandon-miller-of-coleman-nicole" width="160" height="120" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-1822" /></a>My good friend, and occasional contributor to this space, Brandon Miller, has taken the plunge:  His passion for wine, especially Pinot Noir, has gotten the better of him and he has decided to offer his own label, <a href="https://www.colemannicole.com/home.aspx" title="Coleman Nicole"><strong>Coleman Nicole</strong></a>.  Brandon has been a prolific writer of tasting notes.  He has tasted wines far and wide.  He can speak fluently about most of the wines of California, certainly the varietals, but also of Oregon.  Yet he is not a wine geek, nor does he hoard rare bottles.  He is first and foremost a wine lover.  His knowledge base is in tasting.  A humble family man, it has been my great pleasure to know him and his lovely wife, Denyce, these last few years.<br />
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One last note:  What I hope especially comes through in the following interview is the great joy Brandon took in discussing his adventure in winemaking, every step.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="coleman-nicole-rose" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/coleman-nicole-rose.jpg" title="coleman-nicole-rose" rel="lightbox[1813]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/coleman-nicole-rose-120x160.jpg" alt="" title="coleman-nicole-rose" width="120" height="160" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1814" /></a><strong><em>Admin</em></strong>  <em>Well, Brandon, how exciting, how delightful it is to see you here in San Francisco, at the restaurant Yuet Lee in Chinatown, and to see this lovely bottle of wine you&#8217;ve given me, your Coleman Nicole Rosé.  Where on Earth did you come up with this idea?  How did you find the patience to persist?</em><br />
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<strong>Brandon Miller</strong>  I wanted to come up with something a little different.  I didn&#8217;t want to create a wine company that was solely based on the marketing of the label.  I didn&#8217;t want to come up with a clever name; I appreciate those names but I didn&#8217;t want to come up with a catchphrase name like &#8216;Sojourn&#8217;, that kind of thing.  So I took my children&#8217;s middle names and created a wine company.  I floated it around with a few people.  Most people say to me, &#8216;hey, how&#8217;d you come up with that?&#8217;  They kind of give me a funny look first, and then when I tell them about my children they think it&#8217;s the greatest thing since sliced bread!<br />
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As far as having the patience to persist, when I started I had to tell myself you got to give it 24 months before there is going to be any real traction.  And then after that you&#8217;ve got to give yourself another three years to create a company that makes something that people like and enjoy on a regular basis, and flock to.<br />
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<em>You&#8217;re well-known in certain circles to be a strong Pinot enthusiast.  And you&#8217;ve brought here today this Rosé of Pinot made from fruit sourced on the Sonoma Coast.  Are all your wines Pinots?  Are they single vineyard designations?</em><br />
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<strong>BM</strong>  That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re trying for, yes.  With the &#8216;08 vineyard we&#8217;re 100% Sonoma Coast Pinot.  We&#8217;re not adding in Syrah, or anything to mess with the flavor.  I&#8217;m a Pinot varietal nut.  I love the flavor.  I don&#8217;t really want to mess with that.  Now, we will mess with different clones here and there.  But we want to stick with a true&#8230;, and I hate using the word &#8216;terroir&#8217;, I really do, because I don&#8217;t think half the people out there really understand the definition, or they have there own definition, which is completely fine.  But I really want people to be able to say this vineyard brings these characteristics on a semi-consistent basis; and I love the purity of that.  I really do.<br />
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So, yes.  It&#8217;s going to be 100% Pinots and we&#8217;re going to try like hell to stick to single vineyards.<br />
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<em>How much wine have you made this first time out?  What about barrels?  A thousand questions&#8230;.</em><br />
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<strong>BM</strong>  The first year, &#8216;08, we did eight barrels, so we did roughly 200 cases, somewhere in there.  Half of that is new French oak and the other half is neutral oak.  We&#8217;re not messing around with any Austrian or American oak, it&#8217;s all 100% French.  It&#8217;s going to age anywhere between 14 and 18 months depending on how we feel the juice is doing.  For &#8216;09 we&#8217;re going the same route.  We&#8217;ve changed a few coopers.  The <a href="http://www.winebusiness.com/wbm/?go=getArticle&#038;dataId=3579" title="WB link"><strong>Remond</strong></a> cooper we&#8217;re finding to be just a fantastic barrel, so we&#8217;re going with 25% of Remond alone.<br />
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It&#8217;s been interesting having to go through clearing house and watching the euro to make sure you&#8217;re at the right price.  It&#8217;s certainly different than the game I&#8217;ve been used to.<br />
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<em>And what about the price point?  How did you settle on it?</em><br />
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<strong>BM</strong>  I actually did a lot of research before I decided on pricing.  I looked at all the competition, looked at all where all the single vineyard stuff is, where blending is&#8230; I&#8217;m the type of person that&#8217;s not going to want to raise prices on my loyal customers.  So, when we designate &#8217;single vineyard&#8217; we certainly have the ability to go higher in price as the farmers need to make their money; but $38 a bottle for us seems to be right in the middle of not taking advantage of people and still making a little bit of money.  (laughs)  I mean, we&#8217;re very small on our margins because we don&#8217;t own vineyards, and I&#8217;m still learning the winemaking trade, so I have a winemaker.  I couldn&#8217;t even be considered to be the associate winemaker.  I&#8217;m like the associate winemaker who wants to be a winemaker who is in training for it all.  So we have to pay for that, as well.  We&#8217;re trying to meet in the middle, and the research told me that between the Siduris and the Kosta Browns, the big Pinot guys here in the United States, we thought that was a fair price.  <em>[Brandon mentioned to me, though it was not recorded, that the rosé might sell for $12 to $15-Admin]</em><br />
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<em>And what about your wine style?  What are you after?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="rhys-logo" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/rhys-logo.jpg" title="rhys-logo" rel="lightbox[1813]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/rhys-logo-160x110.jpg" alt="" title="rhys-logo" width="160" height="110" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1815" /></a><strong>BM</strong>  I have to admit that I fell in love with Kosta Brown.  But I&#8217;m also a huge <a href="http://www.rhysvineyards.com/" title="Rhys"><strong>Rhys</strong></a> fan and a huge Rivers-Marie fan.  I think the grape in general just brings so much on all the different levels that when it&#8217;s done right, it can be done right big and it can be done right laid back.  Done right, it&#8217;s just delicious.<a class="lightbox"  title ="rivers-marie_pinot_noir_sonoma_coast" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/rivers-marie_pinot_noir_sonoma_coast.jpg" title="rivers-marie_pinot_noir_sonoma_coast" rel="lightbox[1813]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/rivers-marie_pinot_noir_sonoma_coast-160x129.jpg" alt="" title="rivers-marie_pinot_noir_sonoma_coast" width="160" height="129" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-1816" /></a><br />
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Our style is probably on the bigger side, but we&#8217;re not as big as Kosta Brown.  A lot depends on how we bought our grapes in &#8216;08.  We had to buy them through a different winery and they had the say as to when they were picked.  The brix went a little high on us.  This year we&#8217;re going to tone it back just a little bit.<br />
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We&#8217;re doing both a Pommard clone and some 777.  I enjoy the Pommard clone.  I really enjoy the meatiness, the thickness of the grape, I love the mouthfeel.  The 777 can go a little more fruity and then get a little bit on the bigger side, of course, depending on when you pick.  My deal is always <em>balance</em>.  So if it&#8217;s big or laid back or Burgundian, it must have balance.<br />
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About that, Burgundy.  People are always looking for the next best Burgundy wine here in the West, and I include Oregon in that, too.  I&#8217;m a huge Oregon Pinot fan.  I think that since this is California, this is what California gives to the Pinot grape, so let&#8217;s enjoy it.  There&#8217;s so much good wine out there it&#8217;s just not worth pigeon-holing who we are as winemakers.  Most people love Burgundy, it&#8217;s pricey, but to go with that more elegant style?  I would bend that way.  But I&#8217;m still feeling it all out.<br />
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<em>How did you come by your vineyard selection?</em><br />
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<strong>BM</strong>  The first year, I&#8217;ve got a plan where I want to start with Sonoma Coast.  I love what Sonoma Coast brings.  I also love what Russian River brings.  I tend to like some Russian River Pinots a lot better than Sonoma Coast.  But Sonoma Coast was where we had our &#8216;in&#8217;, that&#8217;s where we were able to buy from first.  Russian River is a little more locked down when it comes to buying fruit.  But once we a couple of years under our belt with Sonoma Coast we&#8217;re going to move and do a Russian River bottling.  And then probably Anderson Valley and Mendocino.  Then we&#8217;re going to move to either the Santa Lucia Highlands or the Santa Cruz Mountains.  Some of the stuff coming out of the Santa Cruz Mountains is really, really difficult to ignore.  It&#8217;s really top-notch juice.  And if we get big enough then hopefully one day we&#8217;ll do an Oregon bottling.  I think that&#8217;d be fun.<br />
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<em>Did you go to a bank and present them with a five-year plan?  How did you secure financing?  You&#8217;re smiling&#8230;</em><br />
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<strong>BM</strong>  To say that did it all on my own would be a lie.  (laughs)  It&#8217;s four families that have a passion for wine.  I am the biggest owner of the company but the four families, my mom and dad, my wife and I, my brother and his wife, and a very close family friend, we all put up the funds to do this.  I did write a full business plan.  We are an llc, it&#8217;s completely legit.  We all consider ourselves investors.  There is a pay-back schedule; there are responsibilities there that make this a true business and makes me watch the finances very closely.  But I did not have to go through the pains of going to a bank to try and secure money for it.<br />
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<em>So much of the wine business is payment up front&#8230;</em><br />
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<strong>BM</strong>  Yes.  Barrels, grapes, barrel racks, bins, the list goes on and on and on.  Stainless steel kegs for our rosé&#8230; it keeps going and going.  And I didn&#8217;t realize that there were that many costs involved.  But we have some cool toys now! (laughs)<br />
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<em>Where is the winery located?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="silenus-vintners" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/silenus-vintners.jpg" title="silenus-vintners" rel="lightbox[1813]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/silenus-vintners-160x51.jpg" alt="" title="silenus-vintners" width="160" height="51" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1819" /></a><strong>BM</strong>  The winery, so &#8216;08 was at <a href="http://www.silenusvintners.com/silenus/index.jsp" title="Silenus Vintners"><strong>Silenus Vintners</strong></a>, across Hwy 29 from Trefethen, right next to Laird; &#8216;09 is going to be at a brand new facility called <a href="http://juiceboxnapa.com/" title="link"><strong>JuiceBox</strong></a>, also in Napa.  A new building, a beautiful place, everything is new.  I think as of this date there are six wineries in there making wine.  A cool facility.<br />
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Everybody I&#8217;m involved with, I&#8217;m close to in the last year doing this, most those people are moving over to JuiceBox as well.  It&#8217;s a neat little community we have going on there.<br />
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<em>Have you talked with distributors?  Will your sales be subscription-based?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="coleman-nicole-logo" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/coleman-nicole-logo.jpg" title="coleman-nicole-logo" rel="lightbox[1813]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/coleman-nicole-logo-160x56.jpg" alt="" title="coleman-nicole-logo" width="160" height="56" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-1820" /></a><strong>BM</strong>  I have an allocation system I wrote.  I&#8217;m in IT by trade so I created the website, I designed everything myself, and I&#8217;m writing the back end for it.  Within that back end I&#8217;ve created an allocation system.  We&#8217;re doing things a little different on the allocation system.  You get points for being on the list per year, you get points for the amount of money you spend.  But I wanted to be a little more viral so I came up something I&#8217;ve not seen anybody do:  if you ask for <a href="https://www.colemannicole.com/home.aspx" title="Coleman Nicole"><strong>Coleman Nicole</strong></a> in a restaurant let us know what restaurant you went into for dinner and asked.  And we&#8217;ll give you some allocation points.  If there is a Pinot Noir-only blog out there and you comment on a thread &#8220;Hey, has everybody tried Coleman Nicole?&#8221;  Let us know.  We&#8217;ll give you some allocation points.  We really want to be viral.  We want technology to work for us, like everybody else does.  But it&#8217;s a cool way of getting the community out there and getting the name out there.<br />
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So, yes.  It will be allocation-based only.  And if we get to a point where we&#8217;ve got too much inventory then I&#8217;ll be footing to restaurants and boutique wine shops.  I do not want my wine in Safeway or BelAir or grocery stores, at this point.  I just don&#8217;t want that.<br />
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<em>Are you looking into competitions?</em><br />
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<strong>BM</strong>  No, I haven&#8217;t.  But I will.  I would love to be in Pinot Days next year.  We&#8217;ll definitely submit for scores even though I&#8217;m not a big &#8217;scores&#8217; guy anymore.  I used to be huge into scores but this journey has changed my perception on all that.  But, yes, we&#8217;ll put it out in competitions.  See what people think.  I&#8217;m very realistic.  Somebody&#8217;s going to absolutely love our Pinot and tell everybody about it, and somebody is going to hate our Pinot and tell everybody they hate it.  That&#8217;s the name of the game in wine.<br />
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But I think if people realize the care we&#8217;re taking, and the hands-on approach we&#8217;re taking in every aspect, from hand-bottling, hand-labeling, hand wax dipping of the Rosé, people will look at that in an appreciative light. I would hope the judges at competitions read on our site the care we take.  I don&#8217;t know.  I&#8217;m very gray on that, if that&#8217;s even fair to say.  A person&#8217;s palate shouldn&#8217;t judge a wine on the story of how the wine was made.  A wine should be judged on how good the wine is.  On the other hand, I <em>do</em> want people to know the care I take in the wine.<br />
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<em>Have your children participated in the winemaking, the labeling?</em><br />
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<strong>BM</strong>  They love it!  My son, Davis Coleman Miller, is still a little young.  He doesn&#8217;t quite understand the name on the bottle is him.  He&#8217;s three.  But my six year old Mattie, Madison Nicole Miller, she is very into hand-dipping the bottles with me.  Yesterday she slapped a rosé label on her chest and slapped a label on her back and went up to grandpa and said &#8220;Look, Papa!  I&#8217;m a good bottle of wine.&#8221; (laughs)<br />
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She&#8217;s very in tune to what we are doing.  And I&#8217;m trying to train her on how she can maybe tell what wine is served by the shape of the bottle.  I&#8217;m really trying to educate her on wine.  And my son as well, when it&#8217;s time.<br />
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<em>By the time my son was 16 he had tasted a couple dozen grower Champagnes.  We went to France not too long ago.  Outside Cahors, the wines from there I quite love, and again in Carcassonne, we would enter a cooperative, a tasting room and have two glasses put in front of us!  Very civilized.</em><br />
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<strong>BM</strong>  Because of the taboos surrounding alcohol in our society I think a lot of children are missing out on that artform.  I really appreciate parents that do that with their children, to teach them about wine.  It takes the bad mystique about alcohol away if it is part of the meal.<br />
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<em>And if a young person develops an appreciation for wine how can they ever drink vodka?</em><br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="empty-bottle" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/empty-bottle.jpg" title="empty-bottle" rel="lightbox[1813]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/empty-bottle-120x160.jpg" alt="" title="empty-bottle" width="120" height="160" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-1823" /></a><strong>BM</strong>  Or swill!  That&#8217;s how I was in college.  I had a lot of friends who went through the micro-brew craze in the 90s.  And I had my share.  I enjoyed that hand-crafted beer aspect of things, but I was always much more into wine.  My parents always had wine on the table.  From the time I was about twelve years old, they always gave me a little, tiny glass of wine to enjoy with my meal.  That&#8217;s all I got, and I knew it was something to be respected.  I miss that in society.  I miss seeing my friend&#8217;s parents being more open to teaching the art and craft of wine at earlier ages.<br />
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<em>Wonderful speaking with you, Brandon.  Thank you for the bottle of Rosé.</em><br />
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<strong>BM</strong>  Thank you, Ken.  My pleasure.<br />
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		<title>Heart O&#8217; the Mountain, the Old Is Made New Again</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Admin, Ken Payton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What follows is a transcription of a conversation between a winemaker and a visitor.  The exchange took place at a new Santa Cruz Mountains winery just coming into its own, the family-owned Heart O&#8217; The Mountain, located above the town of Scotts Valley, California.  They produce Pinot Noir from 100% estate-grown fruit. The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="lightbox"  title ="heartmountain" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/heartmountain.jpg" title="heartmountain" rel="lightbox[1659]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/heartmountain-104x160.jpg" alt="" title="heartmountain" width="104" height="160" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1657" /></a>What follows is a transcription of a conversation between a winemaker and a visitor.  The exchange took place at a new Santa Cruz Mountains winery just coming into its own, the family-owned <a href="http://www.heartothemountain.com/cellar/" title="HOM"><strong>Heart O&#8217; The Mountain</strong></a>, located above the town of Scotts Valley, California.  They produce Pinot Noir from 100% estate-grown fruit. The occasion of my visit was the Santa Cruz Mtns. Winegrower&#8217;s Vintner&#8217;s Festival, just completed this past weekend.  I had been invited to the winery by Patti Bond of <a href="http://www.bondmarcom.com/" title="link"><strong>Bond Marketing &#038; Communications</strong></a> for a possible interview with winegrower, <a href="http://www.heartothemountain.com/cellar/about-us/" title="link"><strong>Bob Brassfield</strong></a>.  As luck would have it I was treated instead to the conversation below.  Being a strong supporter of winery visitors asking questions, I was to enjoy the very thing.<br />
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For my part, I returned to the property a few days later for a full tour of the vineyards, including machinery and the all-important water supply, with Bob&#8217;s charming son, Brandon.  That detailed conversation will be posted the week of the 21st.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="santa-sada" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/santa-sada.jpg" title="santa-sada" rel="lightbox[1659]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/santa-sada-160x119.jpg" alt="" title="santa-sada" width="160" height="119" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-1658" /></a>One brief note I&#8217;ll write more about next week, the Heart O&#8217; the Mountain winery is located on historically important acreage of an early Santa Cruz winery, Santa Sada, established roughly in 1887 by Pierre and Sada Cornwall.<br />
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Prohibition shut them down.<br />
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The <a href="http://www.heartothemountain.com/cellar/about-us/" title="link"><strong>winery&#8217;s website</strong></a> includes this remarkable passage from the pen of their son, Bruce Cornwall.<br />
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<strong>&#8220;In 1881 a redwood and manzanita covered piece of mountainous land, eighty-five acres in size, was acquired by my father in the Santa Cruz mountains. A cottage was built and regularly during the succeeding years Mr Cornwall, his wife and the writer sought this haven of rest and quiet, at first interested in clearing the land, then in planting the seeds and cuttings, and finally in gathering the fruit, crushing the grapes and making the wines from the same seeds and cuttings. Many and happy were the weekends there, enjoyed alone and with friends and relatives. Years of city business worry were thus relieved of their severity and their natural ravages assuaged.&#8221;<br />
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&#8211;Bruce Cornwall, from Life Sketch of Pierre Barlow Cornwall, San Francisco, 1906</strong><br />
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I shall try to find more information about Santa Sada for a later post.<br />
Now, the conversation&#8230;<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="bob-brassfield" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bob-brassfield.jpg" title="bob-brassfield" rel="lightbox[1659]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bob-brassfield-160x120.jpg" alt="" title="bob-brassfield" width="160" height="120" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1660" /></a><strong>Bob Brassfield</strong>  Typically you don&#8217;t make wine out of your first grape harvest [2004] because the vine is young and it doesn&#8217;t produced its best fruit at that point.  Typically you&#8217;d let the birds have it.  But we were so excited to see grapes on a vine that we just went out and harvested it!  We took them in and we made wine just to see what the end-product was.  We passed it around to friends and other people that we knew, we were getting very positive feedback on it.  So, I won&#8217;t precondition your thought process before you try it, before you&#8217;re afraid to say you don&#8217;t like it!  (laughs)<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="logo_pommard" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/logo_pommard.jpg" title="logo_pommard" rel="lightbox[1659]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/logo_pommard.jpg" alt="" title="logo_pommard" width="110" height="110" class="alignright size-full wp-image-1661" /></a>We only made two barrels, fifty cases, from a single vineyard.  Everything we do here is are own estate vineyards.  We have 6 1/2 acres planted.  If you&#8217;re familiar with the Pinot Noir clones, you know, there are over 1000 Pinot Noir clones; we have have five clones planted here.  Four of them are Dijon clones from the Dijon region of Burgundy, and one of them is a Pommard from just south of Beaune.  Our vines are actually heritaged from that <a href="http://www.chateaudepommard.com/" title="link"><strong>Chateau Pommard</strong></a> estate.  It&#8217;s been certified through the <a href="http://www.entav.com/ANG/certification.htm" title="Entav"><strong>ENTAV</strong></a> certification process of France to be those vines.<br />
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The reason we planted Pommard and not all Dijon is that in the &#8217;70s my wife and I and our young family at the time, we moved to Geneva, Switzerland.  That is where we were first introduced to fine wine.  Up until that point it was either red or white, the cheapest stuff you could find, right? (laughs).  Over there we got a little bit of an education in wine.  We went to our first tasting in Geneva.  They had barges that they lined up and all the wineries came and they set up their tasting rooms on the barges.  We tasted wine there.  The one I gravitated to was a Pommard, a 1964 Pommard.<br />
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Now we fast forward to 2002 when we were getting ready to plant vineyards.  And the person who was consulting with me what to plant, we settled on Pinot Noir, but now was time to choose clones.  Everybody was sort of going toward Dijon clones in the last several years.  I said at least give me a little Pommard for old time&#8217;s sake.  And it&#8217;s turned out to be my favorite again!<br />
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<strong>Visitor</strong>  How long is it from bud break to harvest?<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="777-berry-set" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/777-berry-set.jpg" title="777-berry-set" rel="lightbox[1659]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/777-berry-set-160x120.jpg" alt="" title="777-berry-set" width="160" height="120" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1662" /></a><strong>Bob Brassfield</strong>  Bud break is typically mid-March.  We typically harvest somewhere beginning in September.  It varies.  This hillside right here, the 777 clone, that stuff buds out first if you were to go down and look closely at it you would see we already have berry-set on the hill.  But out on the ridge and some other areas it is still flowering.  We have the warm days but have the cool nights here.<br />
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<strong>Visitor</strong>  How do you pick the clones you&#8217;re going to use?  I don&#8217;t mean the basic clone but the individual type of that clone.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="115-vineyard-in-the-distance" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/115-vineyard-in-the-distance.jpg" title="115-vineyard-in-the-distance" rel="lightbox[1659]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/115-vineyard-in-the-distance-120x160.jpg" alt="" title="115-vineyard-in-the-distance" width="120" height="160" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-1663" /></a><strong>Bob Brassfield</strong>  Well, we were kind of new to it so we went with the advice of people who were heavily into it at the time.  And they advised us on the 667 clone, the 777 clone, and the Pommard, I&#8217;ve already told you that story.  We chose those three.  Since that time a relatively new clone has come into the winemaking arena here in California called 828.  And so we grafted some Pinot Grigio.  We&#8217;d decided we didn&#8217;t want to do white wine so we grafted that over to 828.  And then out on the ridge, you see it way out there, our newest vineyard, is a 115.  So we end up with 667, 777, 828, and 115.<br />
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There are a lot of other clones planted in California that are certified as being California clones.  It&#8217;s not that they were genetically changed in a lab or anything.  If you take a grape vine and plant it in certain environment, a certain terroir, over time it might &#8230;<br />
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<strong>Visitor</strong>  &#8230; optimize itself for that area&#8230;<br />
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<strong>Bob Brassfield</strong>  &#8230; start showing its own characteristics, flavor-wise.  If it is distinctive enough they will certify it, UC Davis certifies&#8230;<br />
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<strong>Visitor</strong>  UC Davis has a pretty good website.  I was looking at it.  I&#8217;m in Almaden Valley and I have this little piece of land, not very big.  I could probably put three rows of something in.<br />
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<strong>Visitor&#8217;s Wife</strong>  We have a backyard! (laughs)<br />
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<strong>Visitor</strong>  I was thinking about putting in some wine grapes and just dabbling.  I&#8217;m trying to figure out which ones.  Pinot Noir appeals to me but I think it might be too warm out there.<br />
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<strong>Bob Brassfield</strong>  You&#8217;re in Almaden Valley?  I would suspect so.  You might be better off to go toward a Syrah or one of the warmer climate grapes.<br />
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<strong>Visitor</strong>  I was reading on the Davis website that Pinot Noir seems very finicky.  I mean you&#8217;ve got problems with keeping all of the stuff off of it, all of the different kinds of diseases.<br />
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<strong>Bob Brassfield</strong>  Yeah.  You have to treat it real delicate.  It&#8217;s all hand harvested.  We don&#8217;t pump, it&#8217;s all gravity flow, we don&#8217;t filter.  We do a cold soaking process in order to get the flavors and aromas out of Pinot Noir.  It&#8217;s difficult to get it out of the skin.<br />
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We harvest each clone separately because they ripen at different times.  We bring them in separately, we cold-soak them separately, we warm them up and ferment them separately.  And then when we press we go into barrels, 100% French oak.<br />
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<strong>Visitor</strong>  All new?<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="bob-brassfiled-pouring" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bob-brassfiled-pouring.jpg" title="bob-brassfiled-pouring" rel="lightbox[1659]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bob-brassfiled-pouring-160x120.jpg" alt="" title="bob-brassfiled-pouring" width="160" height="120" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1664" /></a><strong>Bob Brassfield</strong>  No, not all new.  The single barrels that we do, the twenty and twenty-five case, that we do in new French oak.  But we&#8217;re about 50/50 overall.  If you&#8217;re not careful you can put too much oak on Pinot Noir and destroy the fruit, the fruitiness of it.  Tight grain, by the way.  Then it&#8217;s aged for about 18 months, not all on the new oak for 18 months; we&#8217;ll pull it off maybe after 12 months or so, and put it on a neutral oak.<br />
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Sometimes we&#8217;ll fall in love with a barrel for some reason, we don&#8217;t know why.  But a barrel will just jump out at you.  We will then bottle it by itself.<br />
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Well, we better get you two going on the 2006!<br />
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And so the exchange continued.  I wandered off with Ms. Bond to explore the grounds of the Brassfield&#8217;s estate, an estate formerly owner by Alfred Hitchcock.  But that is another story.<br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong></p>
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		<title>The Convivial Origins of the Santa Cruz Mountains AVA</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Admin, Ken Payton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As returning readers of this blog well know I am a tireless enthusiast for the Santa Cruz Mountains AVA. I feel it has enormous unrealized potential, this despite fistfuls of awards won by its wines over the years. What is missing is greater national recognition. A stronger effort must be made by winegrowers, through their [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As returning readers of this blog well know I am a tireless enthusiast for the Santa Cruz Mountains AVA. I feel it has enormous unrealized potential, this despite fistfuls of awards won by its wines over the years. What is missing is greater national recognition. A stronger effort must be made by winegrowers, through their modest collective instruments of publicity and marketing, to better promote the unique qualities of the region. Terroir means something here. Creative indifference to both fashion and the latest technological innovation is the rule. A barn not a faux chateau is the dominant architectural form. If you like your wine spiked with masking oak, look elsewhere. The preference is for structured, balanced wines, approachable in their youth but, like the winemakers here, in it for the long haul. Indeed, the continuity of the AVAs wine history is unmistakable.<br />
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After I had finished my interview with Jeff Emery of <a href="http://www.santacruzmountainvineyard.com/" title="SCMV"><strong>Santa Cruz Mountain Vineyard</strong></a> (<a href="http://reignofterroir.com/2008/12/04/jeff-emery-of-santa-cruz-mountain-vineyard-pt-1/" title="pt.1"><strong>pt.1</strong></a>, <a href="http://reignofterroir.com/2008/12/10/jeff-emery-of-santa-cruz-mountain-vineyard-pt-2/" title="pt.2"><strong>pt.2</strong></a>, and <a href="http://reignofterroir.com/2008/12/18/jeff-emery-of-santa-cruz-mountain-vineyard-pt-3/" title="pt.3"><strong>pt.3</strong></a>) and was preparing to leave he volunteered the following meditation on the origins of the Santa Cruz Mountains AVA.<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Stems" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/webcopy_016.gif" title="Stems" rel="lightbox[895]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/webcopy_016.thumbnail.gif" alt="" title="Stems" width="160" height="107" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-896" /></a><strong>Jeff Emery</strong> The Santa Cruz Mountains (SCM) AVA is unique in a number of ways. It was the first American Viticultural Area whose criteria was based entirely on geographical and climatological considerations. All the appellations up to that point were generally political boundaries. For instance, Napa Valley. To say <em>Napa Valley</em> on a wine label, on a bottle, you only have to be within Napa county. It is actually somewhat meaningless in terms of climate, soils and geography. Whereas in Europe those things are very strictly controlled based on where you are, that type of thing.<br />
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What ended up becoming the <a href="http://www.scmwa.com/wineries.htm" title="SCMWA"><strong>Santa Cruz Mountains Wine Growers Association</strong></a>, through a number of different changes, was a group of what was being called the <em>new renaissance</em> of winemakers in the Santa Cruz Mountains in the late &#8217;60s early 70&#8217;s. They would get together for these monthly or quarterly pot lucks and discuss the criteria to submit to the government for establishing the SCM AVA.<br />
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The main players felt strongly that appellations needed to mean more than they had previously in the US. Appellations here were kind of a farce, a straw version of what they were in Europe. They really needed to have <em>reasons</em> why. The main people involved in that push were <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bennion" title="Dave Bennion"><strong>David Bennion</strong></a> of <a href="http://www.ridgewine.com/" title="Ridge"><strong>Ridge</strong></a>, Ken Burnap of <a href="http://www.santacruzmountainvineyard.com/" title="SCMV"><strong>Santa Cruz Mountain Vineyard</strong></a>, Val and Dexter Ahlgren of <a href="http://www.ahlgrenvineyard.com/" title="Ahlgren Vineyard"><strong>Ahlgren Vineyard</strong></a>, Bob Mullen of <a href="http://www.woodsidevineyards.com/" title="Woodside Vineyards"><strong>Woodside Vineyards</strong></a>, and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m going to miss some people&#8230;, Jan and Nat Sherrill of an outfit called Sherrill Cellars, long gone now; so this core group of people, we would get together and meet. I was a teenager when I came to this group in the late &#8217;70s. The main focus was developing this AVA criteria. We had endless meetings about what to do with vineyards such as Bates Ranch which has an upper portion and a lower portion, and the lower portion would have been kicked out of the appellation based on the criteria that the upper was in. So a little gerrymander was made for that one&#8230;.<br />
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In short, the boundary is much more complicated than this but generally the West side of the Santa Cruz Mountains the elevation has to be above 400 feet with the idea being that if it is below 400 feet it would be too cold for quality grape growing. And on the East side of the mountain range the vineyards have to be above 800 feet, the idea being that below 800 feet it is too hot for quality grape growing. There are a whole bunch of exceptions to that but, by and large that&#8217;s the deal. So when you look at a map of the SCM AVA it&#8217;s this incredibly squiggly line because it follows the contour lines. The most arbitrary limits, perhaps, are the  northern terminus at Hwy 92 [Half Moon Bay] and Hwy 152 in the south [Watsonville].<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="TTB seal" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/140px-us-alcoholandtobaccotaxandtradebureau-seal.jpg" title="TTB seal" rel="lightbox[895]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/140px-us-alcoholandtobaccotaxandtradebureau-seal.jpg" alt="" title="TTB seal" width="140" height="140" class="alignright size-full wp-image-897" /></a>So this group got together to establish this. The appellation was approved in 1981 by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_Tobacco_Tax_and_Trade_Bureau" title="TTB"><strong>TTB</strong></a> or what was called the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Alcohol,_Tobacco,_Firearms_and_Explosives" title="ATF"><strong>ATF</strong></a> at the time. Now, they&#8217;d gotten used to meeting together and had, in and amongst establishing the appellation criteria, they had also done some marketing things and some tastings here and there, done some collective efforts like that, so it just naturally evolved into a marketing group for the Santa Cruz Mountains. Then, I&#8217;m sketchy on the dates, a group of folks started a Santa Cruz <em>County</em> group that was much more marketing-based than the Santa Cruz Mountains group, and it was sort of a sub-group. But as time went on they became more and more similar, in fact, a whole bunch of us, about half the membership, were in both. And it was decided that it was redundant and silly to have these two organizations duplicating efforts. The two organizations were merged, that was at the time the Santa Cruz County Winegrowers Association and the Santa Cruz Mountains <em>Vintners</em>. They became the present-day <a href="http://www.scmwa.com/" title="SCMWA"><strong>Santa Cruz Mountains Winegrowers Association</strong></a> (SCMWA). I was president of the board at the time when that happened, so you&#8217;d think I would know when that was but I cannot recall off the top of my head! I was chosen primarily because I was in both organizations and they wanted someone to sort of unify the groups and get it together.<br />
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Now we&#8217;re an organization [SCMWA] of over 70 member wineries from around a dozen in those days. We don&#8217;t do potlucks in people&#8217;s homes because there are too many of us! But we still do meet at least twice a year.<br />
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<em>The SCM AVA does have one sub-appellation&#8230;</em><br />
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<strong>JE</strong> Yes.<br />
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<em>In a conversation I had with Bob Mullen he was quite opposed to any further sub-appellations.</em><br />
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<strong>JE</strong> Interesting&#8230;<br />
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<em>He believes it would dilute the branding. On the other hand there are so many microclimates&#8230;</em><br />
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<strong>JE</strong> I don&#8217;t know that sub-appellations dilute appellations. I mean, does a vineyard designation dilute the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gevrey-Chambertin" title="link"><strong>Gevry-Chambertin</strong></a> AOC in Burgundy? It&#8217;s a difficult question because it is such a broad appellation, certainly in terms of microclimates. And there is not just a single varietal that says this is what&#8217;s grown here. So it&#8217;s very hard for the consumer to get a handle on what Santa Cruz Mountains is. This is what the SCMWA has been struggling with for decades as far as what is the AVA&#8217;s identity. To an extent I could make a case for sub-appellations as helping with that. But I also don&#8217;t know that it needs to be that specifically legal called out. When you get into an application for an AVA you going to have to spell out the exact boundary. It&#8217;s like a property line deed. And we all know that applying such rigid, objective things to such a subjective, organic process like growing grapes is never going to be perfect. What I&#8217;ve heard proposed more recently that I think is a good way to do it, and to an extent winegrowers have started to promote it this way, is to talk about the different <em>districts</em> within the appellation, and their different characteristics. The wine group that has done a very good job of doing that is <a href="http://wine.appellationamerica.com/" title="AA"><strong>Appellation America</strong></a> which is an on-line presence that looks at and judges wines in the context of their given appellation, tries to pick out the different styles and then the sub-regions within that. They just did a whole thing on Pinot Noir&#8230;<br />
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<a class="lightbox"  title ="Appellation America" href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/appellation-america.gif" title="Appellation America" rel="lightbox[895]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/appellation-america.thumbnail.gif" alt="" title="Appellation America" width="160" height="45" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-898" /></a><em>Yes. <a href="http://wine.appellationamerica.com/best-of-appellation/SCM-Pinots.html" title="AA"><strong>Clark Smith</strong></a> and <a href="http://wine.appellationamerica.com/wine-review/645/Renaissance-Grape.html" title="AA"><strong>Laura Ness</strong></a> wrote a wonderful series&#8230;</em><br />
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<strong>JE</strong> Right. They developed these different regions like Corralitos and what they&#8217;re calling in our old area, the Vine Hill area, Los Ranchos, the Summit area, Skyline&#8230; so you can do these different plots and regions, and I would say you could do that in general with the Woodside, the Saratoga, the Corralitos&#8230;<br />
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<em>Without a formal sub AVA&#8230;</em><br />
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<strong>JE</strong> Yes, without formal subs and formal boundaries because in many cases, within a given varietal, I think you could argue those boundaries would shift with what variety you&#8217;re growing, its requirements, heat, exposure, etc. It&#8217;s become so cumbersome to do applications for AVAs now that I think it&#8217;s probably more trouble than it&#8217;s worth. In fact the Feds are talking about throwing out the whole process entirely.<br />
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<em>Paso Robles has been involved in quite a long fight over their proposal&#8230;</em><br />
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<strong>JE</strong> Yes, because they are trying to do lots of sub-appellations. We had a big fight years ago when the San Francisco Bay appellation was proposed. That was a situation of applying a bigger, broader based <em>thing</em> on top of an existing smaller one, in this case the Santa Cruz Mountains. The group actually fought pretty hard against the San Francisco Bay. We felt it was pretty meaningless. The Bay is a huge, diverse bunch of microclimates. It was mostly proposed, in our opinion, as a marketing tool for people that distributed world-wide because nobody knew where things were if you didn&#8217;t tie it to San Francisco Bay. And in the end the winegrowers group met and came up with the official policy by voting, and it was by no means unanimous, there was a lot of contention about whether it was a good idea, but the great majority thought it was a bad idea.<br />
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To my knowledge Santa Cruz Mountains is the only exception in the American Viticultural code wherein a smaller appellation within a bigger one is nevertheless exempt from it. In other words, the Santa Cruz Mountains said, &#8220;We do not want to be called San Francisco Bay&#8221;. Normally in that case if you were in the small one <em>and</em> the big one you could choose which you wanted on your labels. So, for instance, if you were in the Santa Cruz Mountains AVA under the normal circumstances if you wanted to say [on your label] San Francisco Bay you could. In our case we said we never want to do that because it is ridiculous and meaningless. Santa Cruz is <em>not</em> part of the San Francisco Bay appellation, which did get approved. But we are carved out of the middle of it.<br />
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<em>And if you&#8217;re below the 400 foot elevation on the western side?</em><br />
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<strong>JE</strong> Well, you can always call yourself by a county, Santa Cruz County, Santa Clara County, San Mateo, Monterey, or you could do San Francisco Bay were you located in the first three counties. Or Central Coast.<br />
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<em>Thank you for your insight, Jeff.</em><br />
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<strong>JE</strong> You&#8217;re welcome, Ken.<br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Cal. High School Viticulture &amp; Enology Scholarships</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[November 30th is the 2009 Rossi Prize scholarship application deadline for graduating Napa Country high school students pursuing a degree in viticulture and enology at UC Davis. (PDF link here.) The $20,000 Rossi Prize was established in 1979
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&#8220; in order to benefit viticulture and enology students from the Napa Valley, and to honor the memories [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/logo_ve_header6.jpg" rel="lightbox[pics-1226674839]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/logo_ve_header6.thumbnail.jpg" width="200" height="24" alt="UC Davis V&#038;E logo" class="alignleft" /></a>November 30th is the 2009 <a href="http://wineserver.ucdavis.edu/content.php?category=Headlines&#038;id=739" title="Rossi Prize"><strong>Rossi Prize</strong></a> scholarship application deadline for graduating Napa Country high school students pursuing a degree in viticulture and enology at UC Davis. (<a href="http://wineserver.ucdavis.edu/pdf/attachment/RossiApplication.pdf" title="application pdf"><strong>PDF link here</strong></a>.) The $20,000 Rossi Prize was established in 1979<br />
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&#8220;<em> in order to benefit viticulture and enology students from the Napa Valley, and to honor the memories of their late parents and brother. The Rossi family has been involved in grapegrowing and winemaking since the early 20th century and has been an integral part of the agricultural history of the Napa Valley.</em>&#8221;<br />
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The Rossi&#8217;s have a very distinguished viticultural history in the Napa Valley and with UC Davis. Their generosity is legendary. It was in late 2007 that Napa valley native Louise Rossi&#8217;s estate donated 12.7 million dollars to the University. The full details may be read <a href="http://www.aes.ucdavis.edu/NewsEvents/web-news/2007/11/12.5-million-rossi-gift-will-support-wine-program" title="UC Davis tribute"><strong>here</strong></a>.<br />
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<a href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cawgg.jpg" rel="lightbox[pics803]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cawgg.thumbnail.jpg" width="200" height="76" alt="CAWGG" class="alignright" /></a>With a less pressing deadline of April 3rd, 2009, the <a href="http://www.cawg.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&#038;Itemid=1" title="CAWGG"><strong>California Association of Wine Grape Growers</strong></a>, through their affiliate, the <a href="http://www.cawg.org/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=168&#038;Itemid=124" title="CAWG"><strong>California Wine Grape Growers Foundation</strong></a>, offers qualifying high schoolers the following:<br />
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&#8220;<em>Up to two scholarships being offered each provide $1,000 per year for four years (provided studies continue to be completed satisfactorily) at any campus in the University of California or California State University system. Another four scholarships each provide $500 a year for two years at any California community college.</em>&#8221;<br />
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However, the scholarships offer comes with a praiseworthy, culturally significant <a href="http://www.cawg.org/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=171&#038;Itemid=127" title="link"><strong>requirement</strong></a>. (<a href="http://www.cawg.org/images/stories/pdf/cwggf_2009%20app_eng.pdf" title="link"><strong>application PDF here.</strong></a>)<br />
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&#8220;<em>Only the children of vineyard workers employed in the 2008 or 2009 winegrape growing season are eligible to apply. However, children of wine grape growers may request a waiver from the eligibility requirement based upon financial need.</em>&#8221;<br />
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The Foundation also offers the <a href="http://www.cawg.org/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=171&#038;Itemid=127" title="link"><strong>Robert Miller Scholarship for Viticulture and Enology</strong></a>. This is a more general prize for viticulture and enology students on the Central Coast planning to attend either the <a href="http://www.hancockcollege.edu/" title="Alan Hancock College link"><strong>Alan Hancock Community College</strong></a> or <a href="http://www.calpoly.edu/" title="CalPoly link"><strong>CalPoly</strong></a>. (<a href="http://www.cawg.org/images/stories/pdf/cwggf_2009%20rm%20app_eng.pdf" title="link"<strong>application PDF here</strong></a>)<br />
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<a href="http://www.csufresno.edu/scholarships/faq/index.shtml#whoeligible" title="link"><strong>Cal State Fresno</strong></a> also offers significant wine ag scholarship awards, but I found their portal difficult to research. However, interested parents and students will find a way!<br />
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I will locate other Cal. enology and viticulture scholarships for another post soon. Anyone with relevant info is invited to write Reign of Terroir with details.<br />
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		<title>Denis Hoey of Dragonfly Cellars</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reign of Terroir is pleased to introduce a new series, Young Winemakers. The effort will be to interview up and coming winemakers, our next generation of creative producers.<br />
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<a href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/header.jpg" rel="lightbox[pics712]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/header.thumbnail.jpg" width="200" height="68" alt="Dragonfly Cellars" class="alignright" /></a>First up is Denis Hoey, 25, owner and winemaker at <a href="http://www.dragonflycellars.com/" title="Dragonfly Cellars"><strong>Dragonfly Cellars</strong></a> located among the <a href="http://www.surfcityvintners.com/" title="Surf City Vintners"><strong>Surf City Vintners</strong></a> group here in Santa Cruz, California. Denis graduated from UC Santa Cruz with degrees in Economics and Business Management. During his last year at the university he met Jeff Emory, the highly regarded owner and winemaker of <a href="http://www.santacruzmountainvineyard.com/" title="link"><strong>Santa Cruz Mountain Vineyard</strong></a> who graciously took him under his wing. </p>
<p>The rest is history.</p>
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I caught up with Denis at Santa Cruz Mountain Vineyard&#8217;s winery where Dragonfly shares space.<br />
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<a href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imgp0587.jpg" rel="lightbox[pics-1223523944]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imgp0587.thumbnail.jpg" width="133" height="200" alt="Denis Hoey" class="alignleft" /></a><strong><em>Admin</em></strong> Tell us how you began making wine?<br />
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<strong>Denis Hoey</strong> I began at <a href="http://www.santacruzmountainvineyard.com/" title="link"><strong>Santa Cruz Mountain Vineyard</strong></a>. I was introduced by one of my teachers at UCSC to Jeff Emory, and he gave me the opportunity to come in and learn, the old apprenticeship style. And I continue to work at Santa Cruz Mountain Vineyard to this day. From there is was exploring the UC Davis library, reading year in and year out until I felt like I was ready I started <a href="http://www.dragonflycellars.com/" title="link"><strong>Dragonfly Cellars</strong></a>.<br />
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I studied very, very hard about an individual grape variety, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durif" title="Durif"><strong>Durif</strong></a>, found about its origins, how it&#8217;s been treated in the past, what has worked, what hasn&#8217;t worked. I pieced together a bunch of different winemaker&#8217;s methods so as to create my own. That&#8217;s the origin of my winemaking.<br />
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<em>Are there other grapes besides Durif that interest you?</em><br />
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<a href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/2006-map-small.gif" rel="lightbox[pics712]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/2006-map-small.thumbnail.gif" width="160" height="200" alt="SC Mtns. Map" class="alignright" /></a><strong>DH</strong> Durif is one of my main focuses. I&#8217;m trying to do mostly Santa Cruz Durif. I think it is a wonderful grape that can grow well here. It has a tremendous expression of smoke, spice, and beautiful flavors that is brought out here in the <a href="http://www.scmwa.com/index.htm" title="SCMWA"><strong>Santa Cruz Mountains AVA</strong></a>. So I&#8217;m working very closely with some growers who are just getting some vineyards online. And that&#8217;s going to be my main focus. However, I also like to play with Cabernet vineyards. The last few years have been fun. I don&#8217;t ever have a contract, it&#8217;s just through my friends I get a great vineyard source and I make great Cabernet from them. One vineyard source one year and one vineyard source another year, and that&#8217;s been a fun thing. So I&#8217;m kind of getting back into the traditional bit with the Cabernet. I also have the opportunity to work with alot of Santa Cruz Mountains [AVA] Pinot seeing that I work for Santa Cruz Mountain Vineyard, so I&#8217;m also making a Santa Cruz Mountains [AVA] Pinot blend. I working with Pinot, Cabernet and Malbec.<br />
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<em>Speaking of smoke I&#8217;ve heard reports of smoke from this year&#8217;s summer fires affecting some vineyards in Northern Napa and Mendocino. Have you detected it in the Santa Cruz Mountains AVA where we too had a number of fires?</em><br />
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<strong>DH</strong> I have not noticed anything as of yet from my vineyards. I could very rarely, if ever, smell the fires from my vineyards or seen any ash in my vineyards. So, therefore, I haven&#8217;t seen any problems for myself. I know of alot of vineyards that were very close to the fires where that could be an issue.<br />
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<em>And the sources of your fruit, are they from all over Cali?</em><br />
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<strong>DH</strong> Yes, but as of 2007 I will be about 75% Santa Cruz Mountains AVA.<br />
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<em>Your case production?</em><br />
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<strong>DH</strong> Case production as of this year will be 600 cases, so very, very small. We started with 65 cases, went up to 100, went up to 350 (<em>laughter</em>), and now were up to 600! So were growing about 100 per cent every year. There&#8217;s been a wonderful response and make me feel, like, &#8220;Ok, I should be making more wine!&#8221;<br />
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<em>You hear various reports about the quality of this year&#8217;s crop, that there is a reduction overall and some quality issues. How would you estimate the quality of the grapes you&#8217;ve seen pass through your doors?</em><br />
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<strong>DH</strong> The grapes that first appeared, I was highly skeptical because they were coming in so fast and so early. But the flavors that I&#8217;m getting from the finished wines that are now in barrel are wonderful. I didn&#8217;t feel as though I had as much control this year due to the heat because you can only pick one or two vineyards a day. And when they&#8217;re all coming in in a three or four day period, you know, some of them get away from you, from optimal. But on the whole I&#8217;m enjoying the flavors. The yields have been very, very low. Alot of our vineyards are coming in 50 to 60 percent low. That&#8217;s a big hit to a winery. I know I would have produced alot more wine this year had some of the vineyards I was working with hadn&#8217;t come in so shy.<br />
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But as far as the quality of the fruit, I think the quality has been quite good from the vineyards we&#8217;re getting from. From year to year I&#8217;ve been noticing that guys right next door can have a bad year just due to the microclimate not only in Santa Cruz but in other appellations. I&#8217;ve worked with two different vineyards and have enjoyed the fruit out of one but not the other. They shared the same growing techniques but it was just the different microclimate.<br />
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<em>That is one of the strenghts of the Santa Cruz Mountains AVA.</em><br />
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<strong>DH</strong> I think so.<br />
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<em>Here in the winery would you tell us a little about your barrel regimen?</em><br />
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<strong>DH</strong> I had the privilege of working in a brewery for about a year and a half. My brother is a brewer. And when I was commuting back and forth, my fiancé at the time, now my wife, was going to school up in San Rafael, I needed to get a job where I could work part time for Santa Cruz Mountain Vineyard and also work up there. So I got a job at <a href="http://bisonbrew.com/" title="link"><strong>Bison Brewing</strong></a>. I learned breweries have to be alot cleaner than wineries have to be. Wineries produce more of a stable product. But in breweries you&#8217;re constantly fighting microbiological warfare due to the nature of beer. Beer is prone to infection. No pathogens can live in alcohol. By infection I mean producing off-flavors, you know, basically ruining what you&#8217;re trying to create. I translated that experience to the winery. So I work under brewery&#8217;s regime of cleanliness. I sanitize everything; no water rinses. It is always organically sanitized and neutralized. Nothing touches the wine that hasn&#8217;t been cleaned.<br />
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There&#8217;s a saying in the industry that brewers are neat and tidy, wineries are a little messier, and distilleries are disgusting! Because nothing can live in high proof alcohol. Distillers don&#8217;t have to worry about infection or things like that. That&#8217;s the pecking order of who&#8217;s more stable.<br />
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But to get back to the point, the wines I work tirelessly to have clean&#8230;, clean, perfect wines going into the bottle. So I can&#8217;t look back and look at myself and say, &#8220;God, I messed that one up&#8221;.</p>
<p>We have about 300 barrels in the winery. My regime is to top routinely, clean each bung because that is a major source of infection, and to taste every barrel at least every one to two months. Otherwise your barrel can start to have its own micro issue that you can nip in the bud. If you&#8217;re tasting often and you know you might have a problem, you can fix it before it becomes a problem.</p>
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<a href="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imgp0590.jpg" rel="lightbox[pics712]"><img src="http://reignofterroir.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/imgp0590.thumbnail.jpg" width="133" height="200" alt="Dragonfly Cellars label and wrap" class="alignleft" /></a><em>How did you come up with your beautiful label illustrations?</em><br />
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<strong>DH</strong> I bumped into a nice lady by the name of Gilli Wolf, she is my graphic designer. She just came up to the table and said she wanted to design a wine label and I said, &#8220;You&#8217;re in luck. I need a wine label designed&#8221;. So I sent her a scrap that I knew I wanted the feel of the label to be. I told her it&#8217;s Dragonfly Cellars, I&#8217;d like Celtic knots in the wings, make it look a little nouveau. She took it from there and knocked it out of the park in the first two or three tries.<br />
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<em>That&#8217;s for sure! I love the label.</em><br />
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<strong>DH</strong> I am really happy and blessed with the label. It really all came together.</p>
<p>The origin of the name of the winery is my wife and I were sitting in a field at a brew festival with my brother. We were wondering what we were going to call the winery. There were thousands of dragonflies flying all around us in this field. I said, &#8220;Dragonfly Cellars!&#8221; But then I said, no, somebody will have that name. I went researching and found nobody really had that name. So I threw it through the TTB, it got approved, got my bond, started the winery. Now it&#8217;s all trademarked. Its been a wonderful growth and we&#8217;re blessed even to have the name.<br />
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<em>Plans for the future?</em><br />
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<strong>DH</strong> I plan to hopefully stay at an 800 case level. I&#8217;ve got a preview program that&#8217;s slowly growing. I&#8217;ve got a whoppin&#8217; 35 members! We&#8217;re still in our infancy stage. What I&#8217;m working on is working with organic growers for the vineyards I work on personally and farm myself, on sustainability, towards doing the majority of my winemaking from grapes of the Santa Cruz Mountains AVA, just trying to work local and as green as possible. In the wine industry we have to use certain things like sulphur just because that is a tried and true method to produce quality wine. At least from my research thus far. I&#8217;m always open to having my mind changed!<br />
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<p>But for the future, I want to create very balanced wines. My wines are all about balance, all about accessibility; they&#8217;re wines that I design where people can come to the winery, buy a bottle of wine, and go home and drink it. But you can also age it for 5 or 6 years, which is good for people who have cellars. That&#8217;s what I do! So I&#8217;m trying to play on both ends instead of having these hard lines where people come in and taste it and go, &#8220;Umm, I don&#8217;t like it right now.&#8221; I want them to come in and say, &#8220;Wow, this is balanced; this has everything I want now. I can only imagine what it&#8217;s going to be in 5 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the ultimate goal.<br />
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It&#8217;s just my wife Claire and myself. We do everything, everything there is to do at Dragonfly. We have no employees. It is just us.<br />
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<em>Absolutely delightful. Thank you very much, Denis.</em><br />
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<strong>DH</strong> Thank you.<br />
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<strong><em>Admin</em></strong></p>
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